If only 1 pistol ? Hammer VS Striker

No fantasies here Bob, I prefer practical useful firearms over toys and trinkets. Shooting is a martial art and has merit if ever called upon. Plinking is strictly a hobby and has zero practical use which is why the plinker crowd and their opinions on which is better have zero merit. Hobby shooters shoot what they like, personal opinion without any defined parameters as opposed to logic and fact based selections. Nothing wrong with hobby shooting, just try and avoid confusing your personal tastes with logic and facts.

OMFG,,, dude you live in Canada,,,, you are a paper puncher/ hobby shooter.
You are not an OPERATOR! Turn the John Wick blue ray off and grab a big chunk of reality:bangHead:
 
Iam bored of shooting my Sig 320 so I just bought a 4 5/8 Blackhawk in 44 mag to go with my SW629 now pistol shooting has become interesting again, long live the wheel gun!!

I just remembered I also have a GP 100 in 22 lr, must get that to the range as well, long live the 10 shot wheel gun!!
 
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bunny said:
Iam bored of shooting my Sig 320 so I just bought a 4 5/8 Blackhawk in 44 mag to go with my SW629 now pistol shooting has become interesting again, long live the wheel gun!!
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This time of year was meant for revolver shooters. Chasing brass in the winter removes all the fun out of the day. Taking my .22LR out next week. I get to shoot weak hand for the next little while. Should help the scoring next summer.

Take Care

Bob
 
As much as I try, just cannot seem to warm up to the striker fired plastic wunder pistols - and I do own one. Perhaps I'm old skool, but a a hammer fired all steel pistol in .45 offers the best mix of reliability, comfort and accuracy for me even if they are a bit more expensive and give up ammo capacity than a comparable plastic framed pistol. Tradeoffs I am comfortable with given the biggest challenge I have is ink bleeding off paper targets :p
 
edgy said:
No fantasies here Bob, I prefer practical useful firearms over toys and trinkets. Shooting is a martial art and has merit if ever called upon. Plinking is strictly a hobby and has zero practical use which is why the plinker crowd and their opinions on which is better have zero merit. Hobby shooters shoot what they like, personal opinion without any defined parameters as opposed to logic and fact based selections. Nothing wrong with hobby shooting, just try and avoid confusing your personal tastes with logic and facts.

OMFG,,, dude you live in Canada,,,, you are a paper puncher/ hobby shooter.
You are not an OPERATOR! Turn the John Wick blue ray off and grab a big chunk of reality:bangHead:
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Thanks for your completely uneducated opinion. Would you care to debate whether a personal opinion has any validity without some form of context/parameters for which to be measured? Let me dumb that down a bit. If we want to compare the colour red to blue and I say blue is better, then that is my opinion. It is not supported by any facts or form of context. If I said blue is better than red if you intended to hide amongst the crowd at a Leafs game, then I could support my argument with fact. If you aid red was a better choice for hiding amongst the crowd at a Leafs game you would be quantitatively and factually wrong.

Take that example and apply it to hobby shooters. If you don't compete, train, or serve then you simply like to shoot what you like to shoot. There's nothing to argue as it's what you like for your recreational use. If we discuss mechanical attributes of a handgun under the context of it's original intended role which is SERVICE use then your opinion has absolutely zero value in the discussion. If we discuss reliability of the firearm in any of the above(competitor, student, MIL/LE) contexts then there are pros and cons between different makes and models. The hobby shooter's opinion again has zero merit as there is no context or parameters to compare against. Hobby shooters enjoy making noise and poking holes. No time limits, no rules, no need to show proficiency,no need/desire to improve, no clock to beat, no need for reliability. Hobby shooters have no direction which leads to abstract circular arguments about personal opinion versus fact.

Whether you want to admit it or not firearms are designed for killing. That was their intended purpose and for most of them that is still their intended purpose. There are many firearms that are purpose designed for competition as well, but they are still capable of killing, reverting back to the original intended purpose of a firearm. Some of us understand this and see the value in possessing a useful life skill. Whether that skill is personal defense or hunting it is still a life skill. The hobby shooter who shoots paper targets with no goal other than to make noise and have fun is not learning a useful life skill. It is just as useful as collecting stamps or waxing your car. Again, nothing wrong with being the practical type or the hobby type, just don't confuse the opinions of one group as useful facts for the discussions in the other group.
 
Alright Kidd X,

I'll bite. What context & parameters do you tailor your training to and why? You have talked about holster training & drills; do you have a carry permit? If not, in what context do you forsee the requirement of a holster?
 
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Hey Kidd X,
I know edgy quite well. I trained and guided him and his wife. He is one dedicated shooter and has put 1000s of meaningful rounds downrange in a year and a half. He participates in all forms of “ Tactical” competitions with both ARs and handguns. In one year’s time, he finally managed to beat me, the mentor, in a match. And, he shoots a G19!! He is also a martial arts expert. So, even though he is still new, he has made it a point to improve.

I think edgy is just expressing frustration at your ( and my ( guilty!)) myopic point of view. I understand where you’re coming from but you must bend a bit here. There are others for which shooting means other things. There are recreational golfers vs. competitive golfers for example.
Just because they don’t share our views doesn’t mean they’re wrong. I say shoot whatever you enjoy and be safe. At least you get more people out there and that is sorta the point, right?
 
My glock 19's must be defective. I can shoot as well or better with an HK P2000 and Sig P239 as I can with a Glock 19. They all shoot about the same accuracy wise, speed wise, and all are reliable.

The basic principles seem to work with all the guns I own, not just my Glock 19.
 
If I was carrying CCW, or was a police officer or soldier that carried a handgun lots but rarely shot them, or carried them as backup, I would proabably want a Glock. They are lighter than steel hammer guns and nicer to carry. I have 2 Glocks and can shoot them fairly well. They aren't my first choice, though.

If i knew I was going to get into a fight with a handgun, I would an all steel hammer gun.

There is no issue with reliabilty with either choice, as there are no handgun fights that go on for 1500+ rounds. So assuming your gun is reasonably clean and maintained before you get into the fight, it's a moost point on hammer vs striker reliability.
 
Gatehouse said:
If I was carrying CCW, or was a police officer or soldier that carried a handgun lots but rarely shot them, or carried them as backup, I would proabably want a Glock. They are lighter than steel hammer guns and nicer to carry. I have 2 Glocks and can shoot them fairly well. They aren't my first choice, though.

If i knew I was going to get into a fight with a handgun, I would an all steel hammer gun.

There is no issue with reliabilty with either choice, as there are no handgun fights that go on for 1500+ rounds. So assuming your gun is reasonably clean and maintained before you get into the fight, it's a moost point on hammer vs striker reliability.
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Canuck44 said:
Gatehouse if you knew you were going to get in a gun fight you would either carry a rifle/carbine or just stay home. :>)

Take Care

Bob
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Read it again.....;)
 
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