andrew3081
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Norinco is not crap gun, where did you get that idea from?
Just because it is made in china and it is cheap, it does not mean crap.
There are alot of crap guns at expensive prices.
If you have $1000+- a few to buy an AR today.
- Thread starter Ryan500
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Norinco is not crap gun, where did you get that idea from?
Just because it is made in china and it is cheap, it does not mean crap.
There are alot of crap guns at expensive prices.
Norinco firearms have a purpose.
They are a good entry level gun, you get a lot of gun for a minimum of cash.
Some run like guns 2-3 times their price, but others are total lemons.
Do not think that you are getting HK or KAC quality in a Norc.
Just because they may go bang just almost every time does not mean they are built anywhere near the same quality, always remember that for the long run. You are getting a far cruder machined, finished, and tested firearms then many of the big name brands.
It may go bang every time for some guns, but would you trust your life to parts built to anything but the highest standard?
They are a good entry level gun, you get a lot of gun for a minimum of cash.
Some run like guns 2-3 times their price, but others are total lemons.
Do not think that you are getting HK or KAC quality in a Norc.
Just because they may go bang just almost every time does not mean they are built anywhere near the same quality, always remember that for the long run. You are getting a far cruder machined, finished, and tested firearms then many of the big name brands.
It may go bang every time for some guns, but would you trust your life to parts built to anything but the highest standard?
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- Fraser Valley BC
How many of us on here are trusting our lives to AR's that we personally purchased?
My personal AR sh1ts the bed, I leave the range and go to Tim Hortons.
Disclaimer: I love my Kevin M comments. dude is always critically constructive and has a cool avatar.
I own the tasty NORC. Mine always goes bang. I have yet to clean it. I am the 2nd owner. I have put over 2 cases through it. It's a PMAG enema fetishist. it's a loathsome monster. A filthy beast. A lead bulimic some might say. smells like pancakes. I lube that mongrel with lard.
But i would only trust my life to my CZ858's.
-chris
Also, in all seriousness, I have found that parts built to the highest standards, by machines in a factory, fail more often than those built by machines with lower tolerances. Although parts built to the highest standards by craftsmen, win every time. but those are mucho mas than 1000$
-chris
Agreed.
What you have to be careful of is blurring the line between "High quality" and "Tight tolerence" firearms.
There are firearms with very lose tolerences, such as the AK-47, and to a slightly lesser extent the CZ series of firearms, function every time. What you have to remember is the demographic of soldier these firearms were to be deployed to. Many of these soldiers were lightly trained soldiers with minimal training, and minimal maintenence tools and experience. You sacrifice a great many things in a firearm in order to attain this kind of "idiot-proofness" as I like to call it.
In talking about the AR platform as this thread is, the benifits lie in a higher trained and better equipped soldier who knows how to clean and maintain his rifle on a regular basis, needed or not. They are tighter tolerence firearms then the AK/CZ series of firearms, but when produced by a manufacturer well versed in automatic and semi-automatic M-16/AR-15 series of firearms, appropriate tolerances will be built in to allow very reliable function of extraordinarly dirty and hot firearms. The upside is accurate fire while maintaining reliabilty when in the hands of well trained and disiplined soldiers.
The problem I feel you are getting at is that there are a great number of AR manufacturers on the market today, and many try to produce a rifle that is of such tight tolerances that it is very vulnerable to getting dirty. Do your research, and get an AR designed to a high quality, while maintaining a reasonable tolerance to allow for various factors that would cause stoppages and malfunctions, and you will outperform most AK pattern firearms any day of the week.
Just my .02 though...
