If you have $1000+- a few to buy an AR today.

Tjhaile can you explain your thinking on this? Why avoid all the lower end US manufacturers? I'm not trolling I just would like to understand your thinking. I just bought a Windham Weaponry SRC and the fit and finish is really really good (I'm taking it to the range tomorrow for the first time so I will know how it shoots then)

Of course if you just don't like those makers then I understand to each their own, but I would like to hear why if you have a specific reason?

Basically, if you're looking for a hobby-grade rifle that won't be used hard, the Norinco is probably "good enough" while costing much less than the low-end US rifles. Conversely, you can spend a bit more and get an objectively much better rifle in terms of things like the following:

-Bolt and barrel materials
-Proof testing and magnetic particle inspection
-Correct assembly (staking, gas port size, buffer type, etc.)

Some good information can be found here on how to quantify a good AR:
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=56063
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7009
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376
 
Dpms. Under $900. You get a simple red dot or scope with that couple hundred you save.
There is always going to be a reason to buy the $1000 riflr....or the $1200....well then theres the $1400 rifle.
On and On it goes. Start with something half decent. A good price and you will have a bit left over for accessories.
Never forget the accessories!! That is 1/2 the reason we buy ARs. I say DPMS
 
I would avoid the low-end US manufacturers like Bushmaster, DPMS, Windham Weaponry, and the like. Either spend a little extra for a Daniel Defense, Stag, or LMT if you want a good AR or stick with Norinco for a budget AR.

Don't listen to this guy.

I have owned a DD and core15 and also handled a windham weaponry.
They are all in the same level in terms of quality.
Only thing DD is good for is their quad rails. The reason why DD is more expensive is because they have the quad rail.. Which cost around $300.

There is a sponsor that have the plain DD upper in stock for $699 ( the one without quad rail and just the plain plastic handguard) hence my point that DD is expensive because of their
Quad rail.
 
Don't listen to this guy.

I have owned a DD and core15 and also handled a windham weaponry.
They are all in the same level in terms of quality.
Only thing DD is good for is their quad rails. The reason why DD is more expensive is because they have the quad rail.. Which cost around $300.

There is a sponsor that have the plain DD upper in stock for $699 ( the one without quad rail and just the plain plastic handguard) hence my point that DD is expensive because of their
Quad rail.

Don't forget DD cold hammer forged their barrels. Top quality barrels IMO.
 
Stag - lifetime warranty, in Canada
^X2
Stag or I might try one of these Sigs
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?847431-Sig-Sauer-Rifles



These lists are from 2006.
Check out the 10,000 round ammo test done with the Bushmasters
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/
 
Normally I would shill for Spikes, but the Stag deal can't be beat for what you are looking for.

Get it now.

Because if you settle on a Norc, and there are changes in the AR platform in the future from the US, you may not like what's available.
 
My vote... SIG SAUER

Like SPEEDJUNKIESRACING said... http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?847431-Sig-Sauer-Rifles

Sig Sauer M400 Enhanced Black $1299.99

SIGM400-Enhanced_detail-R.jpg


.223Rem M4 style Semi-auto Rifle, 16" Barrel with Fixed Front Sight, MOE Handguard, MOE Pistol Grip, MOE Stock, Flip-up Rear Sight and 1 PMag.
 
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norinco...$660...


Man if one more person says norinco I may quit CGN.

I bought a Hi-point 40 once and tried convincing myself it was a good gun. Sold it and went Colt Delta Elite. Crap guns are not welcome here anymore. Norc has its place but not at my house. Except that 1887, which I just sold to fund an AR lol.
 
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