If you have crappy night vision....

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I've had various night vision scopes and optics for a few years. One of the biggest aids to night vision is IR illumination.

There are different NV available here in Canada, with some of them being of Soviet, ie. Russia, Belarus manufacture. Most of these East bloc devices can be greatly improved with the use of some illumination. Here are some examples.
From L- R : Surefire M1, Insight Technology M3 with IR LED, The Torch, Surefire 9P with IR filter
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The M1 has a very clean beam. It is ideal for interior use, ie. wharehouse, large room. The beam is only good for max 75yds outside. It's small and light, and as seen can be used for a weapon mount with a tape switch and picurweenie mount. In this case a 1" scope mount, not too ###y, but works. About $150 but Surefire won't allow these to be exported out of the US without paperwork.

The Insight Technology IR LED also has as a main beam a regular visible light. The application for this may be for secondary use, ie. pistol mount. The LED IR isn't the strongest. $125 but Insight won't export.

The (Da) Torch. Absolutely the strongest dedicated IR light available. This one has a variable beam that works extremely strong outdoors, with the beam seen through a Gen1 tube out to at least 400yds. The wider beam is great for interior or other areas that don't require such a strong beam. Without a doubt, a great piece of kit! It comes with it's own mount, that is adjustable for wind and elevation, like any aiming device. I chose to take all that off, and simply put on another scope ring. It's easier/simpler and I'm not worried about using the beam as an aiming aid, just want to illuminate. The company in the US WILL ship to Canada. $250 but money well spent if you have any type or generation of IR, including any of the latest/greatest gen3. It does have a "Made in Russia" sticker and looks it. So I'm assuming since their NV products really need some help, this is the solution. It is a friggin good IR light.

Surefire 6P that got upsized to a 9P with shock bazel and tape switch. Then added IR filter = very expensive, and crappy IR light. I expected more out of this combination. The 9P shoots an excellent light, to the point of you will get burnt from it, even with the IR filter in place (old news to most of you). But the IR illumination you get from this is underwhelming. The positive asset is: with one 'unit' you have the combination white and IR light. The IR is about comparible to the Insight Tech IR LED. It will light up building interiors and make shadows go away, but for exterior work, not worth the effort further than about 25yds. Surefire won't export any more.

Any other questions, ask away.:D
 
I was actually just looking at my Gen1 sight and wishing for visibility past 75 yds. You might have actually just breathed some new life into the old girl. Maybe PM me where i can find one of the torch units. Thanks!
 
How do you upgrade the 6P to a 9P? I have an extension tube for my 6P that allows me to use Surefire B25 rechargable 6V nicads. Is that extension tube plus a new 9V lamp what you used to upgrade?
 
I was actually just looking at my Gen1 sight and wishing for visibility past 75 yds. You might have actually just breathed some new life into the old girl. Maybe PM me where i can find one of the torch units. Thanks!

Check out AR15.com, go to the Armory section and look under Night Vision. There is a company called Tactical Night Vision (go figure) ownered by a guy named Victor Decosta (sp). He is good to work with. He is also the moderator for that Night Vision forum on ARF.
 
How do you upgrade the 6P to a 9P? I have an extension tube for my 6P that allows me to use Surefire B25 rechargable 6V nicads. Is that extension tube plus a new 9V lamp what you used to upgrade?

Just like you mentioned, tube extension and 9V lamp/shock bezel for weapon mount. Now it takes 3 rather than 2 of the 123 batteries.
Very good light, but I expected more out of the IR filter.
 
Just like you mentioned, tube extension and 9V lamp/shock bezel for weapon mount. Now it takes 3 rather than 2 of the 123 batteries.
Very good light, but I expected more out of the IR filter.

Thank you O' Super Moderator Sahib. :D

Is it worth going to a 9V head in comparison to the 6V?

I use my 6P in regular CR123 mode when I'm travelling. When I'm at work, I switch over to the re-chargeables since it saves money on CR123's.

I find the 6V 6P bright enough for most of my work and serious social encounter requirements.
 
It's hard to define, "is it worth it". It is definately brighter, but I would also like the recharge option. So it's up to the owner to make that decision I guess.
 
Is this all of their stuff or just IR?

So far as I know, it`s just the IR stuff. I got all of this stuff quite a while ago, but just got off my ass to do some pics and description. The guy will ship The Torch to here. It may not even actually be coming from the USofA. Don`t care, it is such a strong light, kinda puts the other to shame. I`ve seen promotional pics of guys over in Iraq using the Torch on M249s and other firearms, so until I shoot with it, I`m going to assume it will withstand the recoil.

I really want to get out to the 800m point with my PVS502 and test it. Maybe in Oct we should be out there for a night.
 
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