Inserts for front peep sight?

manbearpig

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i have a target rifle with williams style peep sights like this:
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but are russian.

the front sight is a globe sight with flat inserts. the front of the shroud unscrews so that you can replace the ring for other types of inserts. like this:
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i purchased the rifle used and no other inserts came with the gun... are these all a standard size on match sights? where would i go about buying more in canada?

this is my first time using peep sights like this for hunting: they are bloody accurate, but its almost impossible to see anything under less than ideal lighting conditions, in the shade, etc. also, your accuracy is directly limited by the size of the front aperture.
are there any other TYPES of inserts other than the donut style? i seem to recall, ages ago, seeing an ad for a set of sights like this and it had a wide variety of sight inserts, like a pin with a tiny bead, etc. can anyone familiar with peep sights recommend another style insert for lower light? or are these guns solely intended for shooting at white paper targets in perfect lighting conditions?
 
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"...are there any other TYPES of inserts..." Yep. There are posts in assorted widths too. You may not be able to find them for a Russian sight though.
"...solely intended for..." With those front sights, yes. The only difference between that rear sight and an Enfield battle sight is the diameter of the aperture. Otherwise, you use them exactly the same way.
 
remove the front insert and measure the diameter of it this will make it easier to figure out what front site you may have. I have a russian rifle and the front site turned out to be a parker hale globe site. Inserts are available from Brownells for around $18.00 us and a couple bucks postage. Different cards have different inserts ranging from the peep to posts and cross hairs.
 
Goto www.brownells.com look up "Shaver globe sight inserts" they cost between $15 and $20 us for a card of 10 different inserts. The catalog gives 6 different diameters for different brands so you may find one the right size. Once you know what size you want check the companies at the top of the page here , they may have what you want in stock. Good luck.
 
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ah, thank you guys very much.

i have some errands to run but later today i will snap some photos of the gun, perhaps someone can help identify it and its origin. ill also unscrew the sight and check the diameter.

so would a post-type front sight be better for target aquisition?
how about painting the entire front sight insert with a phosphorescent yellow paint or something?
its ideal for putting holes in paper but completely useless for hitting pests in the yard unless they are really fat and happen to be in a beam of strong sunlight :)
 
When you find it on the BROWNELLS SITE they have a picture and you have 10 inserts to use, paint or whatever.
 
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here is the front globe sight insert. i screwed up - i had the thing out, took photos of it, but i forgot to measure the front sight insert :(
luckily i had a penny beside it, a penny is 19mm across, so the round part of the sight is approx 15.5mm across. ill measure it more accurately with a caliper later... im assuming i measure the ROUND part? or the entire thing from pin to pin?
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it shoots really well, its extremely accurate for iron sights, the only thing currently limiting accuracy is the size of the front aperture.
all i know is that this is a russian target rifle that was manufactured back in the 1950s... which is very impressive because it has several features common on the most recent target rifles such as a fully floated heavy bull barrel, long beavertail forend, etc. there is NO safety at all, and the trigger is the best trigger ive ever handled, crisp yet less than a lb.

has anyone seen one of these? anyone shed some more light on what it is?
 
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copied from brownells site for comparison.

SPECS: 1095 high-carbon, spring steel, blued. .01" (.25mm) thick. Post & Aperture Card includes 3 apertures, 4 crosshairs, 3 posts. Lyman 17A also fits Browning BPCR. .470" (12mm) dia., Redfield/Alley - .550" (14mm) dia. Fits Redfield 65/66 and Alley globe sights. Large Lyman/Anschutz - .675" (17.1mm) dia., Parker-Hale - .587" (14.9mm) dia., Redfield Olympic - .700" (17.8mm) dia., Redfield International/Mid Tompkins - .769" (19.5mm) dia. All Aperture Card features 10 apertures, from .072" (1.8mm) dia. to .145" (3.7mm) dia. Models for Redfield International/Mid Tompkins and Redfield Olympic. Silhouette Card openings are in the shape of the four animals; has 3 sizes of the four animal targets. Provides 1, 1.5 or 2 M.O.A. clearance all around the target. Sharps-Type fits C. Sharps, Shiloh Sharps, Montana Vintage Arms, plus Pedersoli sights from Dixie and Navy Arms.

781-100-012
Parker-Hale $17.50
 
i meant the rifle :)
i have the brownells page open already... but maybe i should wait until you get yours and see if they fit, bwahaha.

I figured that is what you were referring to lol. I know absolutely nothing about the rifle except for the fact that it shoots and it fits me. very nice trigger and it digests any ammo and groups exceptionally well with all of it. There are lots of them around and the quit making them years ago. drop me a line when you want to sell yours, I have a line up of people who want mine.

wait till i get my inserts and i will let you know if they fit. In the mean time measure yours(the diameter of the outer ring not including the tabs) and post what the measurement is.
 
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manbearpig

The parker hale inserts fit like a glove on my toz-12 front site. I think it is safe for you to order them now if you have not already done so :D
 
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