Interesting, I didn't realize the War Museum in Ottawa had gun info in their site...

Last time I was in the War Museum in Ottawa, they had a "Sten Mark 2" up on the wall.

It looked just a bit funny to me, at least. Vertical feed, huge hole down the barrel, wood stock. Along the side of the square Receiver was rollmarked THOMPSON SUB-MACHINE GUN. Obviously a Sten, one would think..... perhaps.

Tried to tell them they had made a tiny "misteak" but they got all huffy and informed me that they have EXPERTS and that obviously I did not know what I was talking about.

Hell, I can at least READ!

Certainly more than the "experts" seem to be able to accomplish.
 
Yeah, I hear they are fixing a lot of errors, but I went when it first opened in the new building and I lost count of errors on the ID plaques.

That being said, I'm confident the Colt New Service DID enter Canadian service with the second Canadian Boer War contingent. They are probably right about that, I found it elsewhere online today.

Not sure about calibre though? The Museum website seems to think they guns were .455, not .45 Colt.
 
Love the way they have gone all metric on us and ignore anything which might jibe with the old manuals.

Four-point-three KILOGRAMS for the LLE: perhaps, if you add on a sling, bayonet and a full mag. Balances beautifully, but they don't mention that.

But it has a range of 1,645 METERS. How wonderful! Guess the bullet must stop right at that point or something.

They should really try reading what it says on the god-d*mned VOLLEY SIGHTS!

Clowns.

And for this we pay Taxes!
 
Here's an interesting one. supposedly, this revolver was carried by a Canadian officer, was struck by a German bullet, and ended up as a curio in the museum's collection.

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/guerre/photo-e.aspx?PageId=3.B.1&photo=3.B.1.d&f=%2fcwm%2fexhibitions%2fguerre%2ffirearms-e.aspx

So if this is true, why does it bear a BRITISH (Not Canadian) sold-out-of-service opposed-arrow cartouche? Or is it possible the officer purchased the pistol from army stocks in England, and they struck it off charge when he paid for it?
 
They had a Swedish Mauser on the wall labeled as a M95 Mauser. Close, I guess. But an excellent museum full of lots of interesting artifacts.

They should hire Smellie. I would sign that petition. He could write context stories about the artifacts. That is what is missing in museums.
 
I applied for a job there, many years ago.

I was told that they hire Experts but that they will not hire Collectors because Collectors will steal the exhibits.

Then they handed back my application.

I micturate upon them all.
 
Yrs ago I was helping out with a military museum in Montreal and found that the CWM was willing to swap duplicate military badges. Swapping small arms is a separate topic. I visited the CWM in it`s new digs last year and found it well worthwhile. The new premises finally allowed them to display a lot of vehicles which had previously been sequestered.

Funny, I always thought that women micturated while guys just pi$$ed.;)
 
Speaking of the Boer War, here's a photo of my great grand-father who fought in that war:



My uncle has an even better photo of him on a camel with another soldier in front of the Sphinx in Egypt. The above photo hangs in my sitting room beside my book shelves and I try to educate my kids on their great great grandfather whenever they look at his pic
 
They had a Swedish Mauser on the wall labeled as a M95 Mauser. Close, I guess. But an excellent museum full of lots of interesting artifacts.

They should hire Smellie. I would sign that petition. He could write context stories about the artifacts. That is what is missing in museums.

I'm sure he would fix them right up.
 
One thing I made sure I checked out during my last visit to the CWM is the nose art panel from the 432 Sqn Halifax bomber named Avenging Angel. I did a veteran's story about the tail gunner from the aircraft who lives nearby. He visited the museum last year and they made a big fuss over him, got the nose panel down and took his photo with it, and even bought him lunch. He did 32 missions over Europe, got wounded by flak and then went on to have a full life afterwards. He is originally from SK and it turned out that I knew his navigator and best pal whose family homestead was next to ours in east-central SK. He is the only living member of his crew.

The Avenging Angel nose panel is quite popular and the CWM gift shop sells coffee mugs and hats which feature a rendition of the Angel. Interestingly, the original Angel was nude with a surround of red hearts, one for each mission completed. At some point after the panel was brought home and lodged in the CWM in 1946, some maven of political correctness had her over-painted with a swimsuit!
 
Speaking of errors, it is amazing how the Canadian War Museum's "Experts" can pack so many errors into one little online entry like that -

In fact, the Model 1878 Colt Double Action revolvers acquired during the 1885 North West Rebellion, and used to arm Canada's First Contingent to South Africa, were chambered in .45 Colt (as already mentioned) and the first Colt New Service revolvers purchased thereafter for Boer War service were also chambered in .45 Colt.

The worst error on that CWM page, however, is probably that the revolver shown in the photograph on that web page is actually an Improved New Service Model, which was not introduced by Colt until 1909 - seven years after the Boer War! The most noticeable distinguishing feature is the triggerguard - note how the one in the CWM photo is as wide as the frame of the revolver - that was a feature of the 1909 model. Compare with the First Model New Service revolver shown below, on which there is a noticeable step down from the frame to its narrower triggerguard.

On the issue of the chambering of Canada's Boer War Colt New Service revolvers, although Clive Law indicates in his "Canadian Military Handguns, 1855-1985" that all of them were .45 Colt, there is now strong evidence that at least some of the revolvers shipped by Colt in April of 1900, and later, were actually chambered in .455. Indeed, after Canada's Second Contingent sailed, all subsequent Canadian Contingents were entirely funded by the British War Department, which may well have specified that their revolvers should be chambered in .455.

Here is one of the .455 revolvers shipped in April of 1900, along with a detail showing the caliber marking on its barrel, and a detail from the Colt Letter obtained on this revolver by its owner. (Capt. Benoit, the chap to whom this shipment of 350 revolvers was sent, was a Purchasing Agent for the Department of Militia & Defence.) -

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And just as irksome as the CWM getting it wrong is the refusal to make corrections when pointed out. Dismissive, condesending and rude is the the order of the day when it comes to dealing with those who have a deeper knowledge on certain things such as a particular firearm or vehicle. Its like they go out of their way to turn people off.
 
The write ups on artifacts are remarkably short. I looked at the WW1 Colt 1911 purchase. One para. Says the mag holds 8 rounds. Mine only holds 7.

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibit...1.e&f=/cwm/exhibitions/guerre/firearms-e.aspx

you have a canadian contract? i have one as well. the buggers at the cwm wanted mine as a donation so it could be had for free, to have the firing pin taken out, and spend an eternity stored in a damp box in a dark basement.....no thanks.
 
Speaking of the Boer War, here's a photo of my great grand-father who fought in that war:



My uncle has an even better photo of him on a camel with another soldier in front of the Sphinx in Egypt. The above photo hangs in my sitting room beside my book shelves and I try to educate my kids on their great great grandfather whenever they look at his pic

Nice photo and I'm sure your kids will appreciate all that goes with that image
 
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