international classification

Well, giving my example above, the club only has the range time of 7 - 10 PM.....pretty hard to add more squads, unless we reduce the round count...IPSC already mandates a Minimum Round count, so they are pooched there!

According to John's entries, the first squad starts at 5pm.
At Burlington we start at 5pm too with 5..12 people squads starting 5pm, 6pm, 7pm and 8pm... up to 40 people total if everyone is working together and last squad does the tear down. There is actually an opposite problem, some club members shooting there aren't IPSC members, so club can't run this as a Level I match.
 
The round count limits, as far as minimums for matches, is a recommendation not mandatory. A level 1 carries only the recommendation of 2 stages and 28 rounds. If it was only 1 stage and 20 rounds I doubt you'd have an issue. Same goes for level II matches. If you had 65 rounds and 4 stages I don't see that as a big deal, as opposed to the recommended 5 stages and 75 rounds. I think we tend to put way too much emphasis on round counts in this province instead of quality, fun stages.
For sign ups you can try what WNYPPL does and have sign up at the previous match. That way the people signing up are more likely the ones that actually show up.

Well, I doubt we would have many showing up if we only did 1 Stage and 20 rounds, well they would likely show up once. And why are we still trying to limit what 1 hypothetical club wants to do, in order to cater to all IPSC members. Sure, they could put on a Lvl 1 match with 1 stage of 20 rounds, would someone from TO actually drive there to shoot it.....highly unlikely! And yet then we punish by omission of a better match to the local or actual club member shooters!
 
Lol, I didn't say you had to do 20 rounds. But you claimed it was IPSC that mandates a minimum round count and it's not. I'm just pointing out that the round counts listed in the rule book are recommendations not mandatory as you seemed to suggest. For that matter if you read rule 1.1.5.1 strict compliance of the round count and freestyle stage Requirements are not mandatory for level I and II matches. Neither is the 3 to 2 to 1 short to medium to long course ratios. Though I find clubs will stick to the round requirements (which they seem to interpret as all short course must be 9 rounds, mediums must be 16 and all long course must be 32). And then completely ignore the recommended ratio of short, medium and long courses.
 
I must admit, I thought the Round Count minimums were set in stone.

What I am really trying to get at, is a Club can't hold a Lvl 1 match without having the whole of IPSC being able to sign up for it. Given my example, there is only a 3 hour slot, there can be only so many people shoot it. Why can't it just be club members? I am only talking Lvl 1 matches here, not lvl 2 and up.
 
Craig, I should remind you that the original topic were about ICS classification and ICS stages most competitors can't shoot anywhere.

Pat, maybe you could bring it up to the board that Ontario need not only its own Ontario classification, but also somehow support current National/International classification (regardless how bad it is).
 
Craig, I should remind you that the original topic were about ICS classification and ICS stages most competitors can't shoot anywhere.

Pat, maybe you could bring it up to the board that Ontario need not only its own Ontario classification, but also somehow support current National/International classification (regardless how bad it is).

I though the Ontario system would be using the ICS stages? If that's the case...it could just be as simple as asking the shooter at the time of registration (and assuming that there are Classifier stages) "Do you want to have those results submitted to IPSC (which are used for the Internationals and Regional Classifications)...and if they do they pay and extra $3.00

If they decline...those results still get used for the Ontario Classifiction.
 
According to John's entries, the first squad starts at 5pm.
At Burlington we start at 5pm too with 5..12 people squads starting 5pm, 6pm, 7pm and 8pm... up to 40 people total if everyone is working together and last squad does the tear down. There is actually an opposite problem, some club members shooting there aren't IPSC members, so club can't run this as a Level I match.

The 5 pm squad is the set up crew......we start setting up between 5 and 7 pm (depending if anyone else is using the range) and then start shooting as soon as things are set up.
The 7pmer show up at some point and continue shooting.

Then we tear everything down.

Some days we are done at 9 pm

Others at 11 pm.
 
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