IPSC Nationals RO...unload & show clear?
- Thread starter colecreek
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Jarlath has it.
But I may have been mistaken.
Or maybe I guessed right.
Or not.
Certainly it's possible this video could lead to either conclusion. To me, showing clear implies the RO is positioned to see clear. You can't show if no one can see.
I also believe that an RO needs to maintain full peripheral vision. Wearing a towel on one's head does not enhance peripheral vision.
I've concluded from the way many of you circled the wagons and attacked me that:
1. the RO was actually in a position to see that the firearm's chamber is clear;
and
2. that you are ok with an RO impairing his peripheral vision;
and
3. that some here need to consider that discussing or bringing up safety matters should not be seen as breaking taboo. Do we not all benefit by maintaining a culture of safety, where safety is valued and is everyone's business?
imo, the elite who posted on this thread need to decide whether discussing safety is ok, or whether it is something that is to be subject to insult and ridicule.
I think rule 1.1.1.1 should be more than good PR.
Now how about discussing Viper26's idea about giving a shooter some personal space... Sounds good to me, as long as at the end the RO is in a position to clearly see (i.e. verify) that a firearm is clear of ammunition.
Well as D has already stated, he could see the firearm just fine. As well, IMHO the phrase "if you are finished unload and show clear" should be "if you are finished unload" then followed by "if clear hammer down and holster". Once the rule changed to include "if" in it, the responsibility falls on the shooter.
If my gun is not clear when I drop the hammer, I'm the one going home for the day, not the RO. I don't count on the RO to ensure MY gun is clear, that is my resposibility.
Also, this is not D's first time RO'ing. Perhaps it was the camera angle that was decieving, but D knows what he's doing.
Also, this is not D's first time RO'ing. Perhaps it was the camera angle that was decieving, but D knows what he's doing.
stormbringer
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It was not you who were attacked but your blatently STUPID way of broaching the subject.
If you have a Problem with the way the RO in question conducted himself............THEN BE A MAN AND SAY SO!
I hate people who dilly dally around making obscur posts.............
Say what you mean and mean what you say.
You, for one, are obviously unwilling to address the substantive issues and much more interested in browbeating the guy who says 'hey look at this video and tell me what you see'.
If you were a leader you would have steered this post toward what could have been a useful discussion on important matters:
- being there to see at ULSC.
- maintaining peripheral vision.
- respecting shooter's personal space.
- and now, per Arancio, jacking and flipping rounds.
Suggest YOU man up, look at the issues in the eye, and you cease your thuggish behaviour. Try leaving some breathing room to those here who are hinting that there is indeed something to be learned.
stormbringer
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- S.W. Ontario
Once again you MISS the point.
If you had not HINTED but actually said what you thought then things would be fine.
The fact is you chose to hide..........
This COULD have been a useful thread.........it was your stupid approach that doomed it from the start.
its up to the shooter that the gun is clear, RO is there to make sure you dont point it in unsafe direction and to make sure the hammer is down,
thats why its stated " IF you are clear " hammer down and holster.
if it goes bang, its only the shooters fault because they are the ones in control of the firearm.
thats why its stated " IF you are clear " hammer down and holster.
if it goes bang, its only the shooters fault because they are the ones in control of the firearm.
Keep practicing. The coordination to catch that airborne round will come.
And the coordination to catch all those little bits of brass, with your face, if the round fires in the open breach ?? It has happened in the past and will likely happen again in the future.
Stormbringer, your insistance on blowing fogbanks may not be enough to derail this thread. Why don't you get over the style of my first post and join in with something of substance?
Arancio I too have caught a facefull of brass and unburnt powder - from 3 feet away. Wonder what the big hurry is to rack and flip the live round...after all the shooter has finished and the clock is stopped.
Arancio I too have caught a facefull of brass and unburnt powder - from 3 feet away. Wonder what the big hurry is to rack and flip the live round...after all the shooter has finished and the clock is stopped.
stormbringer
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- S.W. Ontario
That is the problem......
you post LACKED substance..........
You seem to want to ignore that fact. I am awaiting a "yep I screwed the pooch on that one sorry guys".
to each their own, safer then covering the ejection port and jamming the round into the ejector. Is it a circus trick with no real value?, yes, is it unsafe? no. Is it how I roll?, hellz ya! 
