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Im currently getting into this new sport. I have a few questions that I have been wondering about. First is What is the most popular class to get into? The second is Aside from having a .22lr pistol to practice with what would be a good pistol that would be to get if I wanted to move from class to class, and basically enter as many competitions as possible.

I know the basics about major and minor, so I have already narrowed it down to a 40 S&W, I just was thinking of a CZ75B, 1911 style, and then all of the Glock types. I have handled quite a few and I think I want a CZ75B, but I was just wondering if there is any disadvantages to it or is there any advantages to having a Double/Single action such as this gun?
 
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Best bet is to start in Production class, you'll need a double action or Glock type for that. If you wish to use one gun or type of gun to shoot all the classes with, Glock might be the way to go. Lots shooting it in Production and some successfully in Standard/Limited and Open as well.
Otherwise, Skip Production and get into 1911's. You'll need different ones for Open, Limited/Standard/Limited 10 and SingleStack, but they all work the same.
 
Since winter tends to be a slow period, this might be a good time to try on a few guns if you can find willing folks to let you test drive.

The CZ-75/85/SP01, Glock, S&W M&P, Tanfoglio, and STI GP6 are all excellent in Production, so if one of them fits you well, it's a great start.
 
CZ75B is not popular pistol in IPSC. I would take a look at CZ Shadow instead.

All boils to one thing.
Money.
If you have a lot buy best gun you can afford, take a training from best GM you can afford, spend lots of cash on ammo and practice.
 
if you are going to shot standard major, i would recommend the following
(note most expensive is first not because it is expensive but because it is a the best.)

SVI
STI
Para/Bul
CZ Shadow
Tanfoglio

if you are going to shot minor production then:

CZ Shadow
GP6
Tanfoglio

now personal feel might move this list around a bit for yo as well as budget. i would suggest that you contact your local Black Badge instructor and see if he can arrange for you to try a few out.
 
I was hoping to keep it under the $1200 tax in, brand new. I know the Glocks and Smith and wesson Mps are popular, I just wasnt a real big fan of the all plastic stuff thats why I mentioned the CZ as a subsitute as long as it can hold its own. I was kind of planning on shooting in major standard and maybe also production, so I would have to shoot atleast a .40sw and just light load it for production ? I thought the CZ shadow was only available in 9mm, thats why I mentioned the CZ75B.

What would my other options be to keep within my price and to get a competitive gun for production major, keeping away from the Glocks and MPs, or is that pretty much my only option?
 
Not to nitpick, but it's "IPSC" :)

On a budget? Stick with production division for now. Any 9mm/40 cal double action gun that feels good in your hand and is comfortable to shoot is perfect. Don't worry about your equipment keeping you back from competing. At every match I've shot at in recent years, all divisions have been recognized, so you won't be excluded for "not having the right gun".
 
Sounds good, I just didnt want to look like a new guy if I showed up with something other than a Glock or MP in production, I fixed my Typo in the main message, wow I really do look like a new guy...LOL
 
$1200 is a pretty tight budget to be honest, if you are buying new.

Here is what I would suggest, if you are seriously going to get into IPSC, spend some money on good basics.

CR Speed Belt
CR Pouches....these can be modified to fit many different pistol manufactures magazines.
DOH Holster for the pistol you are going to shoot.

Right there you are looking at $300 plus tax or so.

That leaves $900 for a gun and additional mags.
Most mags are around $50 or so, and you should have 4 additional mags plus the 2 that usually come with the gun.

That is another $200

That leaves $700 for a firearm, that only leaves a couple of choices, a Glock or M&P, push the budget a little higher, and you are into a STI GP6, CZ75, a little higher still, and you are into the CZ Shadow.

This setup will get you into Production.

YMMV
 
Sorry I meant about $1200 for the gun only, I know I will need about 6 mags a belt, holster, etc. In total I am prepared to spend just south of $2000.
 
I have noticed that almost every gun that has been recommended to me has been a 9mm. Is that what everyone thinks would be the best calibre for production, and to occasionally dabble in the Standard class in Minor. Is the Minor division really a big penalty over the Major? Can one be competitive (if there good that is ) in Standard shooting Minor against guys shooting Major?

Sorry for all the questions, I just like to be well informed before I spend my hard earned Dogh.
 
If you want to shoot both divisions, you're going to be buying a firearm with built in compromise. Why handicap yourself right off the bat? Production division there is no need to shoot .40, as everyone is scored minor power factor, so 9mm is all you need, read cheaper ammo, and you need a firearm that is double action for the first shot.

Standard division, if you shoot 9mm, you are scored minor, and are at an immediate disadvantage to major power factor shooters. You start with the firearm cocked and locked, totally different midset from shooting production, not something that a new shooter should be switching back a forth with, in my opinion.

I think most people would agree, to pick the division that you want to shoot in, and by a firearm that is suited to that division. If you don't like it, sell the gun and by one suited to the other division. Just my opinion anyways.
 
Okay, so do most people start out getting a 9mm and doing production, or do the majority of people start with a .40 or.45 and do standard? Its sounds like production is the way to go if a budget is being kept, but standard has the most competition.
 
the best advice i can give you is go out and try as many guns as you can. then decide what one feels good to you. in a year when you have some experience, you will probably want to change. a lot of people say shot production cause it is cheap to shot 9 mm and most production guns are economy class. However, the double action first shot is very hard to master. Personally i think it is one of the hardest skills to master in shooting a pistol.

Personally i feel the perfect starter gun is one built on a 1911/2011 platform and is a steel gun.

i think that 7.62 recommendation with a shadow in either 9 mm or 40 would be a very good starter rig.
 
In general, I would say there are more people shooting Standard, but I would also say the vast majority of new shooters are shooting Production, this is just from my casual observations. Black Badge instructors would probably know better.
 
blueflash, Where you from? If you live in BC lower mainland you're welcome to try my Glock, 2011 STI standard and STI open:)
 
Walter Hornby said:
the best advice i can give you is go out and try as many guns as you can. then decide what one feels good to you. in a year when you have some experience, you will probably want to change. a lot of people say shot production cause it is cheap to shot 9 mm and most production guns are economy class. However, the double action first shot is very hard to master. Personally i think it is one of the hardest skills to master in shooting a pistol.

Personally i feel the perfect starter gun is one built on a 1911/2011 platform and is a steel gun.

i think that 7.62 recommendation with a shadow in either 9 mm or 40 would be a very good starter rig.
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You will not have any problem with Double Action First Shot if you use a Glock.:D

And for starter, you don't have to worry about the external safety as well.
 
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