What 300?... the wsm?....LOL... read the trajectory tables bud...
Is 30-06 still a decent round?
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What 300?... the wsm?....LOL... read the trajectory tables bud...
Is the 30-06 still a good round? Well let me put it to you this way I bought my first 30-06 39yrs. ago, and have shot critters from ground hogs to moose with it. When I bought a new pricy rifle a few years back I didn't hesitate in the chambering being 30-06.
It is a very effect round with proper bullet selection, and a large bullet selection.
Recoil is moderate, so it is easy to shoot.
You can buy ammo at most gas stations and drug stores if need be.
It was a decent round in 1906 and it is still a very decent round in 2011.
It is a very effect round with proper bullet selection, and a large bullet selection.
Recoil is moderate, so it is easy to shoot.
You can buy ammo at most gas stations and drug stores if need be.
It was a decent round in 1906 and it is still a very decent round in 2011.
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NO. The 30-06 is definitely not a good cartridge for deer! They only flop on their sides these days when shot by something with a decimal number like .270 or a metric number like 7mm. Avoid anything with a hyphen in it at all costs. Deer are very savy in the new millennium you know... 
Here are my reasons my a 30-06, along with 308 are some of the best Hunting calibers out there.
Strong enough to kill any game in North America.
Available in any store that carries ammo.
If SHTF at hunting camp, 99% chances that some guy in a camp nearby will have some you could buy a few round from.
It's a "universal" round like the 308.
Sure it wont tickle the fancy of those elitist but you know what... at 200 yards, when you shoot something and it goes goes, that's all I care.
Strong enough to kill any game in North America.
Available in any store that carries ammo.
If SHTF at hunting camp, 99% chances that some guy in a camp nearby will have some you could buy a few round from.
It's a "universal" round like the 308.
Sure it wont tickle the fancy of those elitist but you know what... at 200 yards, when you shoot something and it goes goes, that's all I care.
One good thing about the '06 is that no matter where you are hunting, if there is a store that sells ammo, it will almost certainly have a few boxes of '06 fodder. Not many other calibers you can say that about. Also, how many calibers are still as popular 105 years after their introduction as they were when marketed? Not very many. With the new high performance bullets and the wide variety of powders, you can load it to approach the 300 WM, with better bullets than you can buy on factory WM ammo.
Yesterday I was at a local gunshop and saw a one only special on a new Stevens 200 chambered in 30-06 (for $300)... old stock or left over, something like that. Anyway it got me thinking about that caliber in light of more recent and/or "popular" calibers like 270, 7mm or 300's and the like. Is 30-06 still a decent chambering for big game?I kind of thought that the deal was good but wasn't really certain about the caliber. Opinions & advice?
30-06 has lasted the ages, because it's effective on big game and target shooting. 180gr soft point ammo on big game. 150gr metal jacket on targets.
There's other cal. that are just as good, too.
Basically, don't over think the situation. You'll be more than fine.
There is the P-14 M1917 variant though.
Did I say WSM? Here's some numbers for you. My 30-06s are pretty steady at 2700 fps with 180s, 2800 with 165s, 2950 with 150s. My .300 Wins don't seem to be laboring too hard to produce 3150 fps with 180s, and though I don't usually go down to 150s 3350 fps is well within reach. I do use a 168 grain that is a powderpuff load at 3100 fps, but even that out paces my own 30-06s to the tune of 300 fps.
Go to your precious chart or one that you can imput some chronographed velocities and find where the energy numbers match, bud.
I'll save you the trouble, with the same bullets the match will occur 150-200 yards farther out with the magnum.Plenty of people are after grizzlies, and many more do take those over 400 yard shots.
I certainly hope people are not taking 400 yard shots at grizzlies. From what I have seen at ranges over the years, many people have no business shooting anything much beyond 250 yards let alone 400.
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There's nothing like the joy a person feels after making a perfect 400+ yard shot.
Excepting maybe, the horror. When a person contemplates the difficulties in packing that hundreds of pounds of dead weight. Down a couple hundred feet of steep slope, across a stream. Plus a few hundred yards of flat ground covered in deadfalls, and up the other side of the rocky, muddy slope.
Not to mention the last haul to the vehicle.
The older I get, the closer I like to shoot Eh!
Excepting maybe, the horror. When a person contemplates the difficulties in packing that hundreds of pounds of dead weight. Down a couple hundred feet of steep slope, across a stream. Plus a few hundred yards of flat ground covered in deadfalls, and up the other side of the rocky, muddy slope.
Not to mention the last haul to the vehicle.
The older I get, the closer I like to shoot Eh!
Take the bench away and many wouldn't pass the most rudimentary shooting test at 100. Does that mean that everyone should abandon smokeless powder?
For what its worth my only grizzly was taken at 66 yards.
My partner's bear on the same trip was also under 100. Both of us used .338s, me because it was a lightweight new toy, and him because he uses it for everything, includeing a walking stick. He's up to 6 griz now, not all of them were close.
I agree with you about the bench but were is the smokeless powder comment coming from
People were (and still are) shooting accurately far beyond 100 yards with black powder.Getting back to the OP's original question, "Is the 30/06 still a decent round?" In a word, yes.
Ever since I started shooting a 1903 "sporter" (don't blame me
- it came to me butchered , I just worked with what I bought [and I'd not have been able to buy one for the price I paid had it been in all-original condition, either] ) and a 1917 Enfield , I've been consistently wowed by the .30-06....Plus, the factory ammo is considerably cheaper than .303 BR.....
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