Is a 44 mag lever rifle a PPC?

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So, what is a PPC?

Are 357 or 44 mag lever actions considered PPC?
Does a PPC need to be fully semi automatic?
Do they need to be fed from pistol magazine?
Is there even an official defention?

Edit: I meant to type PCC, not PPC.
 
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Polish-Jack said:
So, what is a PPC?

Are 357 or 44 mag lever actions considered PPC?
Does a PPC need to be fully semi automatic?
Do they need to be fed from pistol magazine?
Is there even an official defention?
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Assuming you mean PCC, not PPC (Police Pistol Combat)

PC=Pistol caliber - your choice
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C=Carbine - varying definitions, from "shorter than a rifle" to "less than a 20" barrel" to "a 16" barrel or less"
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PCC= A pistol caliber carbine
 
pmt said:
Assuming you mean PCC, not PPC (Police Pistol Combat)

PC=Pistol caliber - your choice
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C=Carbine - varying definitions, from "shorter than a rifle" to "less than a 20" barrel" to "a 16" barrel or less"
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PCC= A pistol caliber carbine
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That was the most simple, beautiful answer I've ever seen on here ��
 
I am going to say no, there is no rigorous definition.

At first glance I would say yes, a .357 or .44 mag lever action carbine is a PCC.

But then I remember, purists have a fairly strict definition of what a 'pistol' is. A pistol is a handgun that is not a revolver. This is why we have ranges with names like 'Anytown Pistol & Revolver Club'.

Thus an argument could be made that a .357 or .44 mag lever action is actually an RCC: Revolver Calibre Carbine.

Obviously if you are one of those people who think the words pistol and handgun are synonyms, this argument holds no water.
 
BattleRife said:
I am going to say no, there is no rigorous definition.

At first glance I would say yes, a .357 or .44 mag lever action carbine is a PCC.

But then I remember, purists have a fairly strict definition of what a 'pistol' is. A pistol is a handgun that is not a revolver. This is why we have ranges with names like 'Anytown Pistol & Revolver Club'.

Thus an argument could be made that a .357 or .44 mag lever action is actually an RCC: Revolver Calibre Carbine.

Obviously if you are one of those people who think the words pistol and handgun are synonyms, this argument holds no water.
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Automag

44 Automag-pistol, so it could be I think.
 
the sock said:
Automag

44 Automag-pistol, so it could be I think.
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Sure, a short, shoulder rifle chambered in .44 Automag would be a PCC, because that is definitely a pistol cartridge. But that is pretty hypothetical, as I've never heard of such a thing. However, there are many short rifles out there chambered in the .44 Remington Magnum round, which is a revolver cartridge.
 
Next thing someone contacts the CFP/CFP out of misguided good intentions to clarify this burning question and a couple of years later they get OIC-ed.
 
The term pistol goes way back before revolvers and semi auto's.... I think we can safely use it as a general term for single hand held firearms.
 
Well how many movies do you see the good guy screw a long barrell on a revolver to shoot the bad guy. 44 is ppc good, if you can afford to reload for it.
 
Definitely a pcc. That was the whole point of the 1873 lever guns so that you could have a rifle in the same caliber as your pistols
 
For me , P means pistol as in semi auto handgun , C means a handgun caliber , and C means carbine which means a short rifle ; so no , a 44 " lever action " would not be a PCC as it is not semi auto. Just my two cents worth....
 
Midnight Rider said:
For me , P means pistol as in semi auto handgun , C means a handgun caliber , and C means carbine which means a short rifle ; so no , a 44 " lever action " would not be a PCC as it is not semi auto. Just my two cents worth....
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You sir have offended my honour..... :)

I challenge you to a pistol duel!

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Midnight Rider said:
For me , P means pistol as in semi auto handgun , C means a handgun caliber...
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Well, right there I have to disagree. The 'P' and first 'C' are not isolated terms, they are an adjective phrase, "Pistol-calibre". A calibre commonly used in pistols. They go together.

So a pistol-calibre carbine is a carbine chambered for a pistol calibre. The only question is, what's a pistol? Why can only semi-auto handguns be considered pistols?
 
BattleRife said:
I am going to say no, there is no rigorous definition.

At first glance I would say yes, a .357 or .44 mag lever action carbine is a PCC.

But then I remember, purists have a fairly strict definition of what a 'pistol' is. A pistol is a handgun that is not a revolver. This is why we have ranges with names like 'Anytown Pistol & Revolver Club'.

Thus an argument could be made that a .357 or .44 mag lever action is actually an RCC: Revolver Calibre Carbine.

Obviously if you are one of those people who think the words pistol and handgun are synonyms, this argument holds no water.
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Desert Eagle (.357, 41 Mag, 44 mag) and Coonan (.357) are pistols which shoot .357, 44 mag, etc. Ergo, they are also pistol calibres in addition to being revolver calibres.
 
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