Is a 44 mag lever rifle a PPC?
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I have a number of lever actions in .357. .44 mag & .45 Colt. 19" and under barrels are carbines, 20" and above are short rifles according to the manufacturer of those rifles. My .44 magnum.
End of the day, you may have the best PCC right there. Very nice. Certainly more useful while hunting than a 9mm, and has enough capacity for defense. FYI Garand, and you may know this, but Skinner Sights sells an excellent take down case for your PCC.
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they make 45/70 in revolvers ........ but my self I would say " I'm Good ... I will watch you shoot it"
I have fired a .45-70 handgun, but it was a pistol (T/C Contender), not a revolver.
I say yes.
For me a PCC is a handgun cartridge carbine where uou sacrifice power and range for lightweight, fast handling and carrying, greater magazine capacity and faster reloads if DM and the possibility of sharing ammo between your carbine and sidearm.
They are a compromise and for my uses, most of the time I'd rather have a rifle chambered for a rifle cartridge if I'm going to lug around a long gun.
For me a PCC is a handgun cartridge carbine where uou sacrifice power and range for lightweight, fast handling and carrying, greater magazine capacity and faster reloads if DM and the possibility of sharing ammo between your carbine and sidearm.
They are a compromise and for my uses, most of the time I'd rather have a rifle chambered for a rifle cartridge if I'm going to lug around a long gun.
As stated, a PCC is a carbine that fires a pistol cartridge. If you insist upon getting semantically silly...as I see a number of you do...then consider that there are revolvers that fire "pistol" cartridges, using half-moon or full-moon clips...and there are semi-auto "pistols" that fire revolver cartridges, like the Desert Eagle. So...yeah, silly.
How about this: any cartridge fired in a "pistol"...whatever you think that is...becomes a pistol cartridge. Any carbine...whatever you think that is...that fires that cartridge thus becomes a pistol-cartridge carbine.
That's pistol cartridge carbine, not pistol caliber carbine. We are all supposed to be shooters, so we should know the difference between a cartridge and a caliber...and that'll give some folks the option to get even sillier...
How about this: any cartridge fired in a "pistol"...whatever you think that is...becomes a pistol cartridge. Any carbine...whatever you think that is...that fires that cartridge thus becomes a pistol-cartridge carbine.
That's pistol cartridge carbine, not pistol caliber carbine. We are all supposed to be shooters, so we should know the difference between a cartridge and a caliber...and that'll give some folks the option to get even sillier...
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The hangup seems simply to be the current definition of the word pistol.
Then factor in the current trend with pistol calibre carbines, mostly in 9mm using common semi auto hand gun magazines.
It's easy to see why someone might decide that a pistol caliber tube fed lever action is not a PCC in a micro world view sort of way.
Then factor in the current trend with pistol calibre carbines, mostly in 9mm using common semi auto hand gun magazines.
It's easy to see why someone might decide that a pistol caliber tube fed lever action is not a PCC in a micro world view sort of way.
I purchased the takedown case from Skinner Sights in Montana right after I bought the gun.
then ther is the def. of 'carbine'
which seems more and more to mean a short semi-auto often-black rifle
Like the RCMP not carrying an assault rifle but they carry a police carbine
anyone ever witness a lever gun in any 3-gun match, besides CAS?
Further more, I have a Ruger 96/44, only ever offered in one barrel length, so no rifle vs carbine designation
It has a rather short barrel, but is it a carbine?
hmmm
The original definition of carbine was a short rifle, usually for cavalry purposes. None of the rifles at that time were SA, largely single shot or lever action; perhaps the definition has evolved to include SA's now, but it will never exclude the originals. The mounties definition is pathetic wordplay trying to appear more benign. I would say that your 96/44 is without a doubt a PCC, and a good one at that.
Yep! ME!, I shot a match at Milo 2 years ago, with my 1911, pump shotgun and a Uberti M73 Carbine in .45 Colt. Had a hoot to boot.
