Is a 44 mag lever rifle a PPC?

Just to muddy the waters, there have been a lot of pistols (single-shot, multi barrel, revolvers, semi-autos, even full-autos) made in .22 long RIFLE. Does that make it a pistol calibre? Does that make all short rifles in .22 lr pistol-calibre carbines?
 
Another angle. Prohibit all pistol caliber carbine ammunition. Pistols are now prohibited. Noone needs a pistol!!!! Prohibition of ammo makes everything basically like a antique pistol, a boat anchor because no ammunition is available. The long game, no new shooters, established shooters can't without ammunition. In a generation they won't even need horses to trample us.
 
BattleRife said:
I am going to say no, there is no rigorous definition.

At first glance I would say yes, a .357 or .44 mag lever action carbine is a PCC.

But then I remember, purists have a fairly strict definition of what a 'pistol' is. A pistol is a handgun that is not a revolver. This is why we have ranges with names like 'Anytown Pistol & Revolver Club'.

Thus an argument could be made that a .357 or .44 mag lever action is actually an RCC: Revolver Calibre Carbine.

Obviously if you are one of those people who think the words pistol and handgun are synonyms, this argument holds no water.
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You have to read the words in context. Pistol Caliber eg any cartridge designed for a pistol. Yes revolvers are pistols while not all pistols are revolvers. Hence carbines shooting a pistol cartridge as opposed to a rifle cartridge.

The answers is yes, the lever carbines designed to shoot a cartridge designed for a pistol are a PCC by definition. Bolt action carbines designed to shoot pistol cartridges would also be PCC's.

When you read references to 16" being a carbine on US sites remember 16" is the minimum length of barrel for a semi auto that does not fall under the Small Barrel Rifle legislation in the US. As an aside the US used to be 18", the same as ours. This changed when the M1 Carbines were surplussed out and offered to the public for sale in the US. In order to facilitate the sales and not fall under the short barrel regulations the minimum length required to avoid the small barrel legislation was reduced to 16" the barrel length of the M1 Carbine. The Canadian Gov't had no incentive to reduce our minimum length for semi-autos so left the definition unchanged at 18".

The Small Barrel definitions go back to the US Gov't attempt to control the general use of the Chicago Typewriter or Tummy Gun favoured by gangsters during the 1930's.

I suspect the above is a bit more than necessary but bare with me.

Take Care

Bob
 
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