Is a Win.94 In .357 Good for Bear Protection?

Cmon Boomer, as Sunray says, "If you leave him alone, he'll leave you alone.". :p

He's just waiting for the ice to form up so that he can go hunting and have a decent meal!

Keep your dog closeby on a leash, glass ahead with binoculars, be careful when you come out of a building or a tent and stay safe!

Was that your 602 carbine that you used to scare him off?
 
You know it's funny, sometimes you just sence there's something around. I was glassing the coast ahead of us, and behind us but didn't see anything. The dog was out in front, and didn't react to him, the bear was 10' above us so maybe there was no scent. Deb spotted him - she's right handy to have around. We climbed up on top and confronted him, and he wasn't the least bit interested in going away, so it was time to make some noise. He must of figured that little gun was pretty loud at 30'! I kept up the racket until he was a more manageable half mile away. They closed the dump here, and that used to hold the bears out by the airport, seems now they are wandering in closer to town alot earlier. Should be a fun year.
 
Another great bear defense topic :puke:. Does it ever end :confused:

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Is a Win.94 In .357 Good for Bear Protection?
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The real answer for your question is NO! Bears can be killed with almost anything handy. Is it a good idea to take on a pissed off bear with a .357, NO!. It has been done for sure! But who ever says it is a good idea should be enroled in the special olympics :sucks:

I have noticed most of these dumb topics revolve around people who have never spent any time around bears. If you need to ask, you probably should ask the bears what they feel is good for bear defense :D
 
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No. This IS the thread that never ends.
It goes on and on my friends.
Someone started writing it not knowing what it was
And we'll continue writing it forever just because
this is the thread that never ends.
It goes on and on my friends...


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If you are talking mod 94 with the numbers 357,one might want to scramble the numbers a little(375 win)and with a 250 grain bullet it might be not enough!

The .357 Mag makes a good back up piece,If I had to use a pistol round in a rifle it would be a rem 44 mag or 45colt!

But even a .22LR will kill a bigbear!

Bob
 
I'd use one for black bear defense, if it was a gun that I was familiar with and accurate with.

I'd just use the biggest, heaviest bullet loading I could find.

Black and Grizzly bear chages have been stopped by .44 magnum revolvers in good hands, I dont' see why a 357 Rifle woudln't do the job.:)
 
gunasauras said:
This is what I used last year for Whitetail Deer. I'ld take a bear with it confidently too, but on my terms, not on the bears's terms if I had a choice.....

Here's my info on it...

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36050
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When I had my .357 I used nosler 180gr. partitions with 13.5grs. of H-110 for deer. took a nice doe on the run at about 60 yds. Like gunasauras says. Use it to take one on your terms not the bears. Sure wouldn't be my first choice. But I would be damn glad to have it if I needed it! Much better choices out there.

Dave.
 
Years ago, a friend of mine who worked as a conservation officer in the Ontario MNR told me he used to routinely dispatch black bears with his issue.38 Special revolver. When I asked him why, he calmy replied "because they just aren't that hard to kill."

I have used a .357 Mag Winchester model 94 for years, and believe me, it has more than adequate power for dispatching an irate black bear. Having said that, it wouldn't be MY first choice for a bear defence gun, but if it was all I had it would be just fine by me.

Remember, alot of the calibers used today, even in old style guns like the '94 and the Marlin, are far superior to most of the original loadings the guns were originally chambered for, specifically the black powder jobs.

For the longest while, the .44-40 and the .44 Henry Flat were considered outstanding deer and bear calibers, but today they are considered inadequate ballistically in comparison to the .44 Mag or even the .357 Mag.

A smoke pole firing a .50 Caliber round-ball does not even come close to the ballistics of a .357 Mag out of a rifle, yet these are used all the time to kill bears, and have killed scads of bears in the past.

Just aim right, use a heavy bullet and don't worry about it!:D

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If anyone is still listen....or I guess it would be reading. the 357 can do the job if used right, however that said, I'd be spending time with something heavier is grizzly country, and no matter where I was, barnes x has a nice 140 grain to reload with, (also sold loaded by federal i believe), and nosler has a 180 grain for the 357, I have experience with both, and they penetrate well and hold together. bottom line remains though, you have to hit where you want and want to hit in the right place.
 
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