seen it and done it (in a legal controlled environement) sorry to break your dream, but the FAL is never gonna get of that list, as for hi-cap mag, as long as there is active shooter here or anywhere else in the world, the law ain't gonna change, the biggest problem with this law is that it doesn't work on the intended target, i.e active shooter, since its so easy to remove the pin or rivet in most mag before they actually do their crimes.
Is now the time to get rid of classifications?
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seen it and done it (in a legal controlled environement) sorry to break your dream, but the FAL is never gonna get of that list, as for hi-cap mag, as long as there is active shooter here or anywhere else in the world, the law ain't gonna change, the biggest problem with this law is that it doesn't work on the intended target, i.e active shooter, since its so easy to remove the pin or rivet in most mag before they actually do their crimes.
almost everyone that has "handled " an fn in the cf has done/seen it done- it's the kind of thing that is passed on from corporal to private in the wee hours of barracks- but the fn was at least restricted since about 75( the canadian one) and the rcmp NEEDS to be called on it- our law is based on FACT, not projection- ie a gun is what it is, NOT WHAT IT COULD BE ; by that token anything above a muzzle- loader could be made to fire automatically- it's the "intent" of the individual that should be the defining factor, and NOT whether it's possible or not- in other words, make the mod to the gun and you've crossed the line- go to jail- leave it UNMODDED and use it to your heart's content- it's funny how only the fn has been singled out for this treatment- the m14 and g3 were perfectly acceptable HUNTING rifles until 93, when the liberals took power
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It has been time since their inception for classifications to go. Delete the prohib list, but all restricteds into NR and put full autos in restricted (until Canada is ready for them to be NR). I know this won't happen tomorrow, but over time, I think we can get it done.
that won't happen until our neighbours to the south change gca '68 or gca 34- we tended to mimic the americans until polytech, then we went our own way ( esp california) which basically criminalizes ALL gunowners, regardless of what you have- like i said before it's all about public perception- why do you think the pal/rpal is so easy to pass trained monkeys can do it?- and why did it become manditory even for those folks that have been trained by some of the best coaches in the world - it's ALL about making the public feel good-oh, yea, he's taken the course and now understands the implications of his actions- in the case of dawson, he went ahead and did it ANYWAY- so much for your course
mudgunner49
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How true it is. Very few folks know that one of the first automatic weapons that John Browning made was made from a 92 Winchester lever-action.
Pretty hard to regulate a creative mind...
I couldn't agree more.
A lot of good points made in this thread already. But I guess we are all preaching to the choir.
I would really like to be able to fire my AR off of the range when running a .22lr conversion kit. If a once restricted rifle can be considered prohibited based on the fact that it could possibly fire full auto than a neutered restricted rifle (5.56 to .22lr) should be given the same consideration in the other direction (Restricted to NR). Just my 2 cents, but baby steps first.
I would really like to be able to fire my AR off of the range when running a .22lr conversion kit. If a once restricted rifle can be considered prohibited based on the fact that it could possibly fire full auto than a neutered restricted rifle (5.56 to .22lr) should be given the same consideration in the other direction (Restricted to NR). Just my 2 cents, but baby steps first.
You're right, this CAN be done to the C1A1, however, there are 2 problems with it:
1) It won't last long, and
2) On full auto, the FAL is all but uncontrollable - you wind up shooting at the sky. Full Auto on an FAL is just useless noise.
Yes, I HAVE fired FA FAL's in my Reserve days (way back in the 80's)
The half assed suggestions are retarded in my opinion. Things like using normal mags at ranges or de restricting just .22 handguns or ARs in certain situations.
These will be treated EXACTLY the same by the media and the anti's.
If you make regular cap mags legal at a range the outcry is going to be just as large as if you just make them legal. If you derestrict .22 handguns/AR's you will get the exact same outcry. The media will show pictures of .22 AR-15s and .22 glocks/1911s so you might as well push for the real thing.
No compromises.
These will be treated EXACTLY the same by the media and the anti's.
If you make regular cap mags legal at a range the outcry is going to be just as large as if you just make them legal. If you derestrict .22 handguns/AR's you will get the exact same outcry. The media will show pictures of .22 AR-15s and .22 glocks/1911s so you might as well push for the real thing.
No compromises.
Ask yourself a simple question: "How will the NDP make hay out of this?" When you figure out how to make that answer "They can't" you got it made.
Until then, were screwed. Look at the NDP's billboard stunt, yes they screwed it up the first time, but it shows their hand, how they are going to oppose it; Fear.
Unfortunately you may be right, the time is now because the NDP is about as weak as its going to get, same with the Liberals. Its all gonna be uphill after they get on their feet.
Until then, were screwed. Look at the NDP's billboard stunt, yes they screwed it up the first time, but it shows their hand, how they are going to oppose it; Fear.
Unfortunately you may be right, the time is now because the NDP is about as weak as its going to get, same with the Liberals. Its all gonna be uphill after they get on their feet.
I feel like the conservatives are not going to attempt any other firearms related legislation. The only way I think it could be done is if we approached it from a financial perspective. Take the ATT system for instance. Millions of printed and mailed pieces of paper for people who already are in possession of the firearms. It is a waste of time and money with no public safety benefit. This may be the only realistic change we can achieve. Large cap mags? Pictures of the Norway incident kill that. Legal AKs? Pictures of aks and a bunch of "oh noes machine guns!" kill it. ATT reform seems like the most realistic option.
Simplify the whole thing. Restricted is based on barrel length / caliber - X or higher, non restricted, X or lower, restricted. Full auto is prohibited. Lose the mag caps, semi is slow enough that you don't lose enough time changing a mag for it to be of any consequence; and if somebody wants to tote around 30lbs of drum mag on their AR, let 'em.
Done.
This also frees up tons of resources and money for children's hospitals and schools, and also makes it easier for the polizei to tell if something's restricted without calling mom at the station.
Done.
This also frees up tons of resources and money for children's hospitals and schools, and also makes it easier for the polizei to tell if something's restricted without calling mom at the station.
The registry did not become what it became overnight, nor will it go back overnight. It may never... but with sensible political action we will gain ground.
Saying that you want everything right now will not happen. Period. As much as you, me, and everybody else on this site knows that we are about as dangerous as a friendly dog, Canada is just not informed enough and ready for that kind of action yet. Much bad press has to be undone before that point.
Saying that you want everything right now will not happen. Period. As much as you, me, and everybody else on this site knows that we are about as dangerous as a friendly dog, Canada is just not informed enough and ready for that kind of action yet. Much bad press has to be undone before that point.
AGREED ... We have to kill the ATT's. Once people can take handguns in the woods and such people will lose the fear of them... and with less hoops to jump threw, many new shooters will join us in the fight...
DaveMachine
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Since we're all dreaming in this thread, once the AR15 becomes non-restricted I am totally picking up a 6.5 Grendel upper 
