Is Price Haggling Gone from Gun Buying

kazzxtrismus said:
jet hunter and m39a2

im glad i live nowhere near your 2 stores... if i travel to your neck of the woods i know where to stop and take a dump...but not buy a rifle.

your attitude towards your customers is disgusting... im sure your service and possibly anything else you have to offer can be found elsewhere too.
I plan on doing that.
requesting a discount is standard fare... i have learned this in my 15 years of sales.

it is your response that makes the person in front of you a customer or a browser.
you should be used to being asked.
not necessarily giving one.

enjoy bankruptcy.




stop thinking you have to compete with the chinese... they are copying what you did last time... think about what you will make next
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Your reading comprehension is suspect. Let me help you out:

1st - I'm not a dealer so unfortunately most of your post is irrelevant. Sorry.

2nd - I didn't say that asking for a discount was bad, I said whining about not getting a discount is greedy - there's a difference. You said almost the same thing. How 'bout that - you agree with me on the most important part of my post. We're almost brothers!

3rd - being greedy isn't limited to dealers - buyers can be stricken with the same malady
 
Bottom line is I as the customer can buy wherever I want, and with this site and the internet sales available, you as the dealer need to work for my business!

Give me a reason to buy from you over the next guy!

If we are talking internet sales customer service plays little part, and it mostly comes down to price!

Some of the dealers here fail in that respect that's for sure!
 
kazzxtrismus said:
jet hunter and m39a2

im glad i live nowhere near your 2 stores... if i travel to your neck of the woods i know where to stop and take a dump...but not buy a rifle.

your attitude towards your customers is disgusting... im sure your service and possibly anything else you have to offer can be found elsewhere too.
I plan on doing that.
requesting a discount is standard fare... i have learned this in my 15 years of sales.

it is your response that makes the person in front of you a customer or a browser.
you should be used to being asked.
not necessarily giving one.

enjoy bankruptcy.




stop thinking you have to compete with the chinese... they are copying what you did last time... think about what you will make next
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Interesting. You would be supprised how much retailers are willing to bend over backwords to help people with those little "Extras" if you don't try to grind them down on the 20% they make off the main item in the first place!

Scott.
 
most grocery stores will match advertized prices from other grocery stores, whether it is worth standing around for a few cents is up to you though.

home depot will match prices from other stores, they have never even asked me to prove that XX building supply is selling item X for $XX.99. i just go in with my list with the prices penciled in from other stores and that is what i pay at home depot. this has the added convienience of not having to drive all over town to get all my stuff, just need to spend a little time on the phone. it is very possible to save hundreds of dollars doing this.

i don't expect a gunshop to haggle on new, but i will make an offer on used.

shipping is often the killer on a good deal found in cyberspace.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Bottom line is I as the customer can buy wherever I want, and with this site and the internet sales available, you as the dealer need to work for my business!

Give me a reason to buy from you over the next guy!

If we are talking internet sales customer service plays little part, and it mostly comes down to price!

Some of the dealers here fail in that respect that's for sure!
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Agreed, for the most part. But complaining online about not getting a $29 discount does make it hard to take a person seriously, don't you think?? I'm not a dealer so i don't have to kiss anyone on the posterior in the name of customer service. I think it's ridiculous and pretty sad how greedy some people can get.
 
jethunter said:
Agreed, for the most part. But complaining online about not getting a $29 discount does make it hard to take a person seriously, don't you think?? I'm not a dealer so i don't have to kiss anyone on the posterior in the name of customer service. I think it's ridiculous and pretty sad how greedy some people can get.
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It was just an example to show how rigid some shops are but you missed that totally.Like I said on that day I may have had 7 guns on my list to locate and buy this being one. The few % saved on each adds up very quickly, not about greed more about everyone making a living.
Plus Epps had the same gun in just about the same shape for 800 so I bought it from them.
That is another thing I find unchanged in 7 years being away WES is still WES LOL. Love him or hate him
 
Here is my 2 cents.
I see a lot of used stuff in the EE listed for more than it is new
I see huge variations in price for the same new item
Suggestion - do your home work, try to make a deal. There is nothing wrong with politely mentioning you can get it from so and so for this much money. If the person wants to deal they will, other wise go get it from so and so....

If I was a dealer (which i am not) I would try to make the best deal possible and at the same time mentioning that I have all these accessories as well....point being is that if I buy a gun from you there is a good chance I might buy other stuff as well.

I TRY TO SUPPORT my local guys. Having said that, some of them TRY to give us good deals. Others do not.

Example = I buy a lot of CCI 22 Std velocity. Try pricing that and you will find it anywhere from $8.00/100 to $14/100....guess where I buy mine? I also ask the dealer - If you were to order me a case and I came and paid cash as soon as it gets here whats the best you can do for me?

I think there is room for give and take both ways, as well as paying cash is ususally worth 4% to the dealer.....talking nice buys more guns than talking rude
 
3macs1 said:
It was just an example to show how rigid some shops are but you missed that totally.Like I said on that day I may have had 7 guns on my list to locate and buy this being one. The few % saved on each adds up very quickly, not about greed more about everyone making a living.
Plus Epps had the same gun in just about the same shape for 800 so I bought it from them.
That is another thing I find unchanged in 7 years being away WES is still WES LOL. Love him or hate him
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Well there you go. You got the gun you wanted for the price you wanted. The dealer who didn't meet your price will surely go bankrupt and you will be around to buy another 7 guns tomorrow, not because you're greedy but because you need to save a few percent on each one. ;)
 
steve62 said:
I think we as purchasers should be able to post what we want and the sellers should have to compete for the sale. IE best prices, incentive to have us purchase from them. They are the ones that want to make the sale.

I should be able to come on here Say I am looking for a hunting rifle for my wife. Something small light maybe a Ruger compact? or Remington 7 youth 243 260 270 7-08
convince me what I should get and why I should buy it from you.
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steve62, join the EE and, you can do exactly that. Not being smug, I see it's your 2nd post.

7 pages and, 70 posts only to just spiral into dealer bashing...

Honestly, we're all gods on the 'net. If you'd like to haggle, try..it may or, may not work. None of us HAS to buy. It's not "lost business" for a dealer but, less migrianes. Of all the gunshops (too few) within 3 hours of me, very few are on CGN. Most reply with "They are nutz!!" when I ask. I see the bashing those that are on here go through and, I doubt they afford the headache meds. The inquiries I've made of any of them have all been replied to so far, quickly and, accurately. You sound like kids at the candy store who feel they are entitled to a chocolate bar they can't afford...
 
I haggle for everything...not just firearms but everything (but I like to haggle whereas the wife hates it so she leaves it me). It is definitely harder to do online...thus I find the best price and go with that. Face to face dealings I'll go right to a manager or someone who has authority to actually give a deal...why waste time everyone's time? It doesn't always work...but most times it does. And, as others have pointed out, if you can't move on the price then go for accessories...
 
I find that the dealers that are willing to haggle any amount,are priced too high in the first place.The dealers that give me the best prices,start with their best prices,instead of going through the haggling B.S..
 
This:
stubblejumper said:
I find that the dealers that are willing to haggle any amount,are priced too high in the first place.The dealers that give me the best prices,start with their best prices,instead of going through the haggling B.S..
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If I want something, I shop around and buy it from whomever has a reasonable price, including allowing for shipping. Starting from a reasonable price beats the inanity of haggling any day.

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Last time I was in the states I had a ball visiting surplus stores and out of the way gun shops... for better or worse, many shops down there are motivated to make the sale and move products, not turn down business and keep a product on the shelf for six more weeks trying to make five percent more.

On the flip side, and especially on the EE, access to information is very easy these days, so while there are occasions where prices are set wildly high, a majority of products are priced reasonably... and as such, they don't stick around long.
 
One thing that bugs me is that the local shop, which also has an online business, charges locals who pick up a gun the same price as if they have to ship it across the country. If they are saving $20 or $30 by not having to ship it, why not pass that on to the customer?

They lost a sale not long ago because of this. It left a bad taste in my mouth, and I may not go back.
 
I don't bother on new guns. Been too many situations where I've tried and the response I got was "well as you can see, the price on the tag is...". And I can't blame them at all, if they had to put up with everyone walking through the door expecting a deal then it would be non-stop headaches for them. Especially since they know full well the rifle I don't buy today will be bought tomorrow or the next day for full price by someone who just wants it right now.

Instead, I just find what I want locally and make up my mind if I want it or not, then deal with CGN dealers and discuss pricing with them. Oftentimes they'll go the extra length to make a CGN'er happy since word of mouth is a powerful thing on a forum of this many enthusiasts.

Stuff on the used rack though, I'm all over that.
 
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