Is the 10-22 really just a rimfire shooter's equivalent of the Toyota Corolla?

I’m on my third 10-22. Stopped there because it does what I need. Started as a used deluxe blued version second hand at Phoenix, in Edmonton. Modification:
.92 inch fluted bull barrel, hogged out the barrel channel, Devcon epoxy steel bedding of action and 2 inches of the barrel. Threaded adapter in the muzzle for suppressor when in New Zealand (now prohib there, the rifle, that is), drilled back of receiver to allow cleaning from the breech, Clark trigger, Ti extractor and firing pin, nylon bolt buffer. When more active at shooting gophers I was getting 23-24 out of 25, wearing out the butler creek loader... now those magazines are gone, sadly. Next modification.. Tuff22 mag and some home-shop machining...


OOPS.. Just bought a fourth one... sigh.
 
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My initial reaction to the corolla comparison was no, wrong car.
Back in the day (70's) after shooting the crappy cooey 64 semiautomatic that jammed every other shot or the new Mossberg semi which was worse, the 10/22 was a classy, solid firearm that was made of much better materials, was compact and had that great magazine. And it didn't jam.

Since then it's come down a few notches in quality and the competition has gotten better. If you don't like it no problem, but they have ruled the gopher patch for many years for good reason and have many fans that appreciate them.

And. 22LRguy, I agree with hoyt, a sample size of one is not enough to start generalising about a gun that's been made for 50 years and has millions of happy owners.

Though some folks like them in stock form, I'm a fan of a trigger job, new extractor and an aftermarket barrel. But that's because I'm picky.
 
I just returned from one of my "Gopher Safaries", used .22s out to 100+ yds. then switch to .22 K-Hornet & .222 Rem. All I know is the "Corolla" (SR-22 with volquartson extractor, tuffer buffer and BX trigger)
dispatched a heck of a pile of gophers with not one issue using Federal 36 plated HPs. I plan on driving the Corolla for at least another 400,000 kms.
 
A 10/22 is more like the rimfire equivalent of a Jeep Wrangler
- There are more accessories than you can shake a stick at.
- People are always modifying them

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A corolla equivalent would be a CZ 452
- Borderline boring, accurate. Will hit what you point it at
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My problem is that I am old enough to remember when the Corolla first came out - and what a goofy piece of crap it was.

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My eyes cannot un-see what I have seen.

As for the 10-22, it has earned its chops - from the start. It didn't have to wait until a new generation people forgot how bad it was originally - unlike the Corolla.
 
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Nope, shot my buddys 10/22 takedown brand new.

Have no idea what the hype is all about - issues, and non user friendly controls out of the box.

Highly overrated, maybe nostalgia?
 
LarryG said:
My initial reaction to the corolla comparison was no, wrong car.
Back in the day (70's) after shooting the crappy cooey 64 semiautomatic that jammed every other shot or the new Mossberg semi which was worse, the 10/22 was a classy, solid firearm that was made of much better materials, was compact and had that great magazine. And it didn't jam.

Since then it's come down a few notches in quality and the competition has gotten better. If you don't like it no problem, but they have ruled the gopher patch for many years for good reason and have many fans that appreciate them.

And. 22LRguy, I agree with hoyt, a sample size of one is not enough to start generalising about a gun that's been made for 50 years and has millions of happy owners.

Though some folks like them in stock form, I'm a fan of a trigger job, new extractor and an aftermarket barrel. But that's because I'm picky.
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Fair enough, but if in owning one and shooting several others (including a new TD) I found the accuracy to be poor and the trigger crappy on all of them, I feel relatively comfortable generalizing. lol In the same way, every CZ 452 I've owned (x3) and shot has been accurate and well made. Not sure what qualifies as a large enough sample size, but it was big enough for me to never want another 10/22. In spite of my comments, I actually like the rifles themselves...I just prefer Marlin for a gun that has proven to be more accurate for about half the price. If I'm talking about semis...which I basically never reach for now. :) The Ruger 10/22, 10-round mag is superb, and the 10/22 feels like a solid little rifle vs. the toy-like stock on my 795. There is good/bad on both.
 
steelgray said:
Same thing with the the Ruger PC carbine, including the introduction of this gun, shipping it with an indistinguishable 10 round Ruger a Pistol mag and making advertising claims about how both the Ruger pistol and PC carbine uses the same mag. It is like Ruger is screaming at the RCMP firearms labs to declare the Ruger pistol mag "a dual use mag" - and getting these limited to 5 rounds.

If Thureon - or anyone other than Glock - makes a carbine to use a Glock pistol mag, Glock isn't declaring the mag is intended for dual-use. If Ruger makes a carbine to use their pistol mags, as far as the RCMP might be concerned, they (Ruger) are declaring the Ruger pistol mag to be "dual use". Hi Point also made exactly the same mistake about a decade ago. The relevant RCMP bulletin even uses Hi-point case as an example. The law is all about intent; here most-specifically as declared by the manufacturer. How can Ruger be so stupid TWICE?
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Pretty easily, apparently. Given that Canada is not really the market that they are truly trying to attract, can't really say I can blame them, though it does seem odd to willfully spite any of the customer base, in this day and age.

I must've got lucky with my 10/22, as I have never really had any problems with it, and it shoots pretty well. And, for that matter, we put over 300,000 kms on our Corrolla before we sold it on, too, LOL!

I had such plans for it, too! But they came to naught, and it looks like a truck gun, keeps on working , and doesn't seem too likely to get sent away. Only thing I did to mine, worth speaking of, was to chuck away the damn bolt hold-open. Runs fine without it, and no longer gets stuck open at inopportune times during a charge by the gophers!
 
The big difference is that the 10-22 was always an Okay gun - not everyone's cup of tea but a decent product.

The early Corollas were just plain cr*p. There is a good reason why you will never see a 60's vintage Corolla at a car show. You won't even see one in a scrap yard - really.

They were so poorly made that none survived - and if one did, no one would admit that they owned it.

Japanese manufacturing companies - in those days - were the kind of low-end bottom feeders that people now equate with the Chinese; whereas the Japanese stuff was originally much worse than the cr*ppiest stuff you will ever see from China, today.

The Corollas from the 70's and 80's were just plain goofy. Yes, their current stuff is decent, but it took them long enough. I'm too old - and my eyes can't unsee what I have seen.

Unlike the Corolla, the makers of the 10-22 have no reason to hope that you've forgotten their old stuff.
 
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I like to think of it as Lego for big kids too.
You can shoot it in it's base form, or use your imagination to build it up to something special.
May be just a trigger, & or a bedding job. May be a Kidd match barrel, and a chassis.
Many people enjoy it so much, they don't stop at just one build.
 
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I have owned 4 of them they are so hit and miss on accuracy. Yes you can dump money into them to fix all the problems but your much better of just buying a dlask arms tuff 22.
Tuff 22's are far superior in every way and have 25 legal round mags.
 
There is something wrong with the concept of a gun that takes huge investment in aftermarket tweaks to make it accurate.
10/22 is a good plinker.
A Brno or Anschutz bolt is a great .22 choice.
 
Longboat said:
Not sure if it's the equivalent to a Corrola. And I will get tons of flack for saying this, but i have never in my life have required more than a 10 round mag for anything ever. I'm fine with it.

The only people i ever see using a 25 round or bigger mag is at the range who cant shoot worth a #### go PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW in rapid succession and miss the hell out of the target at 50 yards.

Useless and pointless. No skill whatsoever.

I shoot ALOT and only use 10 round mags in matches requiring 10 rounds.
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Most of my shooting involves accuracy to which I enjoy the most . But from time to time I shoot with big mags for FUN & why not !!
I have shot FULL AUTO. several times & that is the ultimate in FUN. After All why waltz when you can rock & roll ?
 
More like the equivalent of an SKS, which is actually higher quality. I sold my 10/22 and bought a 597. The 597 was better in every way. Yes, I had to lube and retorque the rails, but after that, the rifle was even more accurate. I had the 30 rd magazines that took about 27 rounds, so it had that going for it as well, but even if limited to 10 rounds, still a superior firearm. 10/22 just has a buzz going for it for new gun owners, like an SKS or Glock. Nothing wrong with that.
 
The magazine of my "10/22" is the ONLY Ruger part. I didn't buy it because I wanted a solid but boring shooter out of the box, I built it piece by piece because that's exactly what I wanted to do. No different that building up an AR.
Like a Civic, many people buy it BECAUSE the aftermarket is so robust, not because it has problems that need fixing. Some of us are inherent hobbyists that modify everything we own...we are not concerned with how a stock 10/22 shoots (although, the couple stock ones I have owned in the past were quite decent before upgrades, so long as you didn't use jam-o-matic 25 round mags).
 
Some people enjoy shooting the extra rounds. Why would you have a problem with someone that wants to have a bigger Mag? Sounds like you are as much of the problem as anyone.
Longboat said:
Not sure if it's the equivalent to a Corrola. And I will get tons of flack for saying this, but i have never in my life have required more than a 10 round mag for anything ever. I'm fine with it.

The only people i ever see using a 25 round or bigger mag is at the range who cant shoot worth a #### go PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW in rapid succession and miss the hell out of the target at 50 yards.

Useless and pointless. No skill whatsoever.

I shoot ALOT and only use 10 round mags in matches requiring 10 rounds.
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