Is there a better light recoiling, do it all cartridge...

sunray said:
Nothing will 'turn the charge' of a big bear. Calibre restrictions depend on where you are. .270's are minimum in Wyoming, for example. And there are lots of cartridges covered by your subject. Mind you, the .270 is everywhere so leaving your ammo on the kitchen table isn't as a big deal as it would be for some cartridges.
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You mean like this?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a44_1238995443
 
1899 said:
But, but, but...can't it be the .375 Ruger?
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Unfortunately 1899, it can't be, because it is the ballistic twin of one of my all time favorite and most used calibers in my rack and on the planet............sorry. And in all reality 1899, I have great respect for the 375 Ruger and it's ballistics, how could I not? It is just one of it's proponents that I have issue with.............

Callum......I would much rather a man show up in DEER camp with a 270 than a 223 or 243, I'm not being cliquey, I just wish more people would recognize the limitations of the 270 Win and stop touting it as an all around rifle for elk and up sized game, which it is not !!!!!
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Works for me, 20+ deer with the 270 and 130g Winchester power points. Have yet to find a better way to put deer on the ground quickly. Been using a 7mag with 162g SST's lately but it just doesn't kill as good.
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Leave the SST's for paper and use Interbonds for game... your 7 RM will drop them better than the .270... regardless of the game.
 
A few deer, a few bears, some wild hogs, a couple moose and a bull elk say the 162g SST will work just fine on game. Penetration with this particular weight is on par or better than the 162g interlock. I have always suspected the 162g SST to have a slightly harder core than the 162g interlock. The interlock gave quicker kills on deer as well. My 7mag with the heavy SST is my all round gun and ends up getting used on everything just because I have it with me most often.

However

A couple deer I saw shot with the 130g SST in the 270 was the single most explosive bullet I have ever seen, that is back when they first came out. I bought some a few months ago, I want to see if they are as soft as they were before. Sadly my freezer is full and there are to few deer to be filling every tag so it will have to wait.
 
Last year was the first time I used a 270 win for hunting.... I will say, for Me it WORKED great!!! One shot each at a moose, deer and bear produced bang, flop results. Gotta like that!
 
Brutus said:
There are two places in Canada that the 270 cartridge has a persistant and unwielding support from experienced local big game hunters. The prairies of Saskatchewan and parts of NE BC, such as Fort St John/Dawson Creek.
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In Southern BC, 270's are very common. When I was a kid it was widely viewed as a "big gun" suitable for everything, it must seem that way compared to a 30WCF or a 303 British.
 
c-fbmi said:
Callum......I would much rather a man show up in DEER camp with a 270 than a 223 or 243, I'm not being cliquey, I just wish more people would recognize the limitations of the 270 Win and stop touting it as an all around rifle for elk and up sized game, which it is not !!!!!
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And yet lots of Elk and Moose are taken each season with the .270 probably since the cartridge first went up for sale in the marketplace.

Methinks it largely comes down to the shooters capabilities and limitations as well as bullet construction.

I'd rather see a person in a deer camp with a .243 that knows how to use it then someone ignorant of the abilities and limitations of their larger cartridge choice.
 
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Any cartridge you can load down. I shot a 30.06 loaded to 125grains when I was a hundred pounds at 13 years old. If you don't want to sacrifice hitting power, then get a heavier rifle.
 
Salty said:
The problem with the 270 is its inherent gheyness
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Use a .270 Win and the next thing you know you will be wearing a scarf by the campfire while sipping a Mint Julep.

fiddler said:
Any cartridge you can load down. I shot a 30.06 loaded to 125grains when I was a hundred pounds at 13 years old. If you don't want to sacrifice hitting power, then get a heavier rifle.
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Yes you can load down anything. Whether or not it will be accurate with heavily reduced loads is another question. My "weak" load with my 7mm RM is a 150gr Partition at a chronographed 2700 fps using 49.0gr of IMR4064. I've tried lighter loads with 120gr Ballistic Tips but to no avail. The other thing with a loaded down 125gr .30-06 is that you are sacrificing trajectory for the reduced load. A 100gr .270 will shoot much flatter, have equal or less recoil, and kill deer just as well. So in that instance what is the upside to the .30-06? I should point out that I really like the .30-06 too.
 
OK, I have a different idea. List another cartridge and corresponding loads that will, within SAAMI specs:
1. have a PBR (+/- 3") of +325 yards with a bullet suitable for shooting deer sized game - and do this with less than 15lbs of recoil in a 7lb rifle; and
2. launch a bullet with at least .249 SD at +2900fps - or one with a .298 SD at +2800 fps;

:)

I wasn't as keen on the .270 as I am now that good quality lighter bullets have been announced. With these new bullets it can be anything from a .243 Winchester to a 7mm RM "light". That is, imo a pretty broad and useful spectrum. Yes, with mid-heavier weight bullets there are others that are very similar, but it doesn't look as though any of those cartridges can touch it on the light bullet/recoil combos.
 
As I see it some bright fellows took a military rifle round that was pretty darn good .. but was also intended for light and medium machine guns...and adapted the case to be more suitable for all around hunting in North America ... with the .270W they managed to reduce the recoil a little and improve the velocity and the PBR while giving up nothing in terms of terminal effect or accuracy .. that assumes you had available bullet weights from 100 to 160 gr which we used to. We could have stopped there but others insisted on "guilding the lily" and the 280/7Rem Mag/264WM were born.

When the military decided to shorten their cartridge to 7.62... more adaptation too place .. and coulda/shoulda have stopped at 7/08 for all the modest advantages the others "might" provide ( eg 243/260/358 etc)
 
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