Is there a reasonable priced annealing machine made in Canada.

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I have been getting back into shooting and reloading and have most of what I need or maybe more then I really need. However after collecting my brass for a few years I began to think about annealing so I can possibly get more life from the brass. Brass has become very expansive along with all the other items. So I have been looking at a few things all from the US and like the looks of the Annealeez but wondered if someone in Canada has been building anything along these lines?
I know a lot of people have rigged up some thing to use and are quite happy with there tool/toy what ever. Me I want some thing that I can just load the brass turn on the gas light her up and be away.
 
Yup, I also find that 7-800$ is too much for an annealing machine for my needs.
I just dont anneal 223 brass because it would take too much time without a machine with a feeder.
I anneal target ammo lapua brass, thats all. Manually with a drill, takes approx 15-20 minutes to do 100 cases.

If there ever is a reasonable cost machine available (200$) i would probably buy it. Not for more than that, not worth it to me.

If i buy something i think that i would buy the annie fluxeon annealer with the timer, looks like the best and fastest most repeatable way to do it.
 
There is a guy on here that uses a small Lee casting pot and I believe potassium nitrate??? to anneal cases. I've seen some pictures on here.
Basically he built a small tray that sits in the casting pot with 2 holes in a cover, it is height adjustable I think depending on the case. He drops a piece of brass into the holes, waits about 6-7 seconds and pulls the brass out.
Casting pot is 60$, some scrap metal and a drill and you could make the cover/ rack.
Then find potassium nitrate. That is the tricky part.

I couldn't find any videos. But some pictures and info are in here
castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?153620-Annealing-Setup
 
I can't justify the money for these new annealing machines.. I am planning a build at home but until it's finished I have had great luck with a deep socket and a blow torch.

A 12mm deep socket fits a 308 case perfectly. I have it set into my 18V impact driver and run about 100 rpm. I hold the case about 2" from the base of a propane torch and point the flame at the neck/shoulder junction. It takes roughly 8 seconds per 308 case.

Different neck sizes will take slightly different time and I'm sure that brand may change the timing as well.

To figure out the timing, you can use Tempilaq 750 or as I do, set up and turn the lights out. I prep everything then run a head lamp to start the torch and grab my first case. In the dark you will see when the case gets hot enough to glow and my rule of thumb has been to stop at an even maroon glow on the neck. Orange will result in a soft neck and you'll know because you can usually oblong the case mouth with a hard pinch.

Anyways, if you want to anneal to save money, this is the way to do it. And it doesn't take all that much time. Thursday night I did 225 cases in just over an hour. Took a couple rum breaks too. :)
 
CanuckR said:
Then find potassium nitrate. That is the tricky part.
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its actually quite easy. most hydroponic gardening stores sell it for growers that want to mix their own nutrients but i think its maximum 500g per purchase in accordance with MNR regulation.

edit: i also saw it available at an IDA pharmacy back in my high school days.
 
CanuckR said:
There is a guy on here that uses a small Lee casting pot and I believe potassium nitrate??? to anneal cases. I've seen some pictures on here.
Basically he built a small tray that sits in the casting pot with 2 holes in a cover, it is height adjustable I think depending on the case. He drops a piece of brass into the holes, waits about 6-7 seconds and pulls the brass out.
Casting pot is 60$, some scrap metal and a drill and you could make the cover/ rack.
Then find potassium nitrate. That is the tricky part.

I couldn't find any videos. But some pictures and info are in here
castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?153620-Annealing-Setup
Click to expand...

I can't say that I have needed to anneal thousands of cases every year, but I anneal some and the salt bath method has continued to work well for me. Well enough that I have seriously considered building some kits for sale so that others could get into the method. I am fairly sure that I could put together the case holder, a package of salt and a thermocouple for something like 80 bucks. You buy the pot for $60 and you are ready to go. I haven't actually done so, but this thread might form a useful gauge of interest as whether or not it's realistic.

Here is an old video that still resides over at Photobucket. The design has evolved somewhat, but the concept is unchanged. I really need to make a new one and get it onto Youtube.


[video]http://vid262.photobucket.com/albums/ii102/BattleRife/Annealing%20Stuff/Annealing_0004.mp4[/video]
 
Is the thermocouple just for monitoring temperature???



BattleRife said:
I can't say that I have needed to anneal thousands of cases every year, but I anneal some and the salt bath method has continued to work well for me. Well enough that I have seriously considered building some kits for sale so that others could get into the method. I am fairly sure that I could put together the case holder, a package of salt and a thermocouple for something like 80 bucks. You buy the pot for $60 and you are ready to go. I haven't actually done so, but this thread might form a useful gauge of interest as whether or not it's realistic.

Here is an old video that still resides over at Photobucket. The design has evolved somewhat, but the concept is unchanged. I really need to make a new one and get it onto Youtube.


[video]http://vid262.photobucket.com/albums/ii102/BattleRife/Annealing%20Stuff/Annealing_0004.mp4[/video]
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Kryogen said:
Yup, I also find that 7-800$ is too much for an annealing machine for my needs.
I just dont anneal 223 brass because it would take too much time without a machine with a feeder.
I anneal target ammo lapua brass, thats all. Manually with a drill, takes approx 15-20 minutes to do 100 cases.

If there ever is a reasonable cost machine available (200$) i would probably buy it. Not for more than that, not worth it to me.

If i buy something i think that i would buy the annie fluxeon annealer with the timer, looks like the best and fastest most repeatable way to do it.
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x2 on the annie fluxeon, when I buy an annealer that'll be it.
 
I have a Fluxeon Annie annealer on order that I should be picking up by the end of this week. I'll post an initial review once I receive it. I also bought the parts for a home-made annealer but want to get away from using open flame to anneal. We'll see how the Annie works out shortly.
 
yomomma said:
You can buy the basics at Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-48V-DC-1...k-Driver-Zero-Voltage-Switching-/231232593947
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While I am good at mechanical stuff, I'm not too hip on electronics, unfortunately.
What do I need to know about that thing?
It says 12-48 volt. So it will work through a wide range of voltage?
Can I get a transformer somewhere to step down house current 110V to power this?
It is DC, so I would need to change from AC house current too?
Would an old HO train set transformer work?

It also says:
3) For the object being heated, its size should not exceed 1/10 of inner space of coil (and if the object is in the shape of a cylinder, its diameter should not exceed 1/3 of diameter of coil), otherwise will cause over-load to burn the circuit or power supply.
but does not give a dimension of the coil. Is there enough clearance to accept a 50BMG at the shoulder?

Thanks.
 
Can someone with the Annie annealer chime in on when the timer is on/off does it switch the induction Heating Unit on/off?
Can't figure out any other way but wonder if constant switching on/off of the IHU will fry something.

I ordered all the part for DIYer. Trying to decide to:
  1. Switch unit on/off for say 3.0sec or
  2. Leave unit on and after 3.0sec use Pull Type Solenoid to drop the brass

Already got the timer and proximity sensor working. Rest of components hopefully arrive this week. Might post a DIYer guide if I can it all working.
 
Use google my friend. Lots of guys building these.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/induction-brass-annealer.3876157/


tootall said:
While I am good at mechanical stuff, I'm not too hip on electronics, unfortunately.
What do I need to know about that thing?
It says 12-48 volt. So it will work through a wide range of voltage?
Can I get a transformer somewhere to step down house current 110V to power this?
It is DC, so I would need to change from AC house current too?
Would an old HO train set transformer work?

It also says:
3) For the object being heated, its size should not exceed 1/10 of inner space of coil (and if the object is in the shape of a cylinder, its diameter should not exceed 1/3 of diameter of coil), otherwise will cause over-load to burn the circuit or power supply.
but does not give a dimension of the coil. Is there enough clearance to accept a 50BMG at the shoulder?

Thanks.
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