Is there any demand for an ALL Canadian made bolt action precision rifle?

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sendero said:
That make me laugh, some are OK to pay BIG $$$ for euro rifle like Accuracy INTL and so or ANY BiG NaMe US made rifle but, when someone want to have even or higher quality build in canada, they pee on it PFFFFFFFFF..........................The VERY first day we CAN'T import thoses HIGH END across the border, everybody will cry to have them produced HERE and then, i hope they will PEE on customers like some did on them !!!
Keep up the AWESOME work ATRS.... Some day, CGNers will realise we need more buisness like your !!!
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I would favor other like AI/sako in the 4k-5k range because they have a track record and offer something atrs is not offering.
I wont pay 5 k for a simple clone of a remington action even if it is made in adamantium
I will pay 5k for a Canadian rifle with proprietary chassis , a 60 degree action with fast switch barrel capability.

But until then AI/Sako trg are still better for the money. It not even debatable.
 
From what i read, you seem to have NONE of thoses rifle and probably only read/hear about it !!! please, tell me what AI/Sako offer that ATRS don't offer ?? how can you say that AI/Sako shoot better then ATRS if you NEVER press the trigger on one of thoses ?? Don't get me wrong, i don't say Ai and Sako are NOT good rifle, i find CHEAP SHOT and DISRESPECTFUL to say AI/Sako trg are still better for the money. It not even debatable You just prove you talk through your hat Buddy, i dare you to find ONLY 1 bad comment on ATRS work, only one...... in the mean time, keep dreaming :)

kevin9934 said:
I would favor other like AI/sako in the 4k-5k range because they have a track record and offer something atrs is not offering.
I wont pay 5 k for a simple clone of a remington action even if it is made in adamantium
I will pay 5k for a Canadian rifle with proprietary chassis , a 60 degree action with fast switch barrel capability.

But until then AI/Sako trg are still better for the money. It not even debatable.
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I got Rick to rebarrel a 700P with a heavy barrel 7mm stw. Let me tell you that thing would shoot . It would be mere luck if any factory offering would touch a good rebarreling job. What I like about custom barrels is they will usually shoot just about any load under moa and well tuned ones 1/2 moa or better.
To get a factory gun to shoot it is usually only one or 2 loads that will come in under an inch. It is rare to get any factory offering to do 1/2 moa .
 
yes we should support our local manufacturing to bad Ontario is out in the cold unless you go 100% custom heres a breakdown of cost estimate for custom f class build In my area
.260 rem action,Barnard P 1400.00$ true-flight barrel 600.00 can. comp. triger ,150.00 bottom metal 120.00, Ferrell 20 moa base 120.00 choeat tac stock 500.00 . So a Canadian made version @ 5000.00 would probable exceed these specs and be a good investment one all tricked out and in a hard case delivered for 5000.00 + tax sounds very doable I will start saving now.
 
I have 2 ATRS 300 WM's - great rifles. One weighs north of 15 pounds with heavy rock creek (rival anything PGW makes) and the other is sub 7 or 8 pounds with a Proof carbon (25") barrel....
The main problem I think for ATRS is that I DID get these custom made by them for about the same price we're talking about for "non custom" but rather ATRS house brand model....
I'm not sure what the Question is you are asking us Rick... We all want the best parts and so far that is what you are selling (and to date it HAS been a mix of US and Canada origin)... If the CDN product item is the best - then yes - I'll take it.

Great Canadian Companies - the now Colt Canada (mentioned already), how about Cadex Defense (co-designed the XM2010 with Remington) (I have a brand new Field Tactical chassis coming for my rem short actions...), PGW, etc... Others. These are the best of their product type AND Canadian. I'm not sure it will ever make sense to make a 300 dollar "CDN" box magazine that is only equal to an AI 80 dollar rifle mag...

As far as the price - it might cost 5000 to start and cost 3000 once you're rolling... But it's business - you'll probably need to sell it for maybe 3800 to 4200 and if you build it - believe that they will come... Just make it cool enough to stand up to SAY DTA factor or MAYBE even make a deal with CADEx for those that want something Tacticool... I think it goes without saying that perhaps the guy whose happy with his Tikka deer killer won't possibly know that CADEX defense even exists....
 
EDX2308 said:
Still looking for a Remington MSR/XM2010 style rifle.... ATRS "could" make a clone of it and it'd be hotter than pancakes....it'll sell like nothing you've ever sold either.
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CADEx Defense - you can already get the Chassis.... They designed it with Remington and then when Rem got the military contract they bought out their share in the program..........,
 
driller212 said:
I think a bullpup bolt action would be a huge success.
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I've been searching the forums for any knowledge or existence of one. All I can find is the DTA-SRS. A bit heavy at 10 1/2 pounds with all the rails. Would be nice to see a lighter option. If the Keltec RFB can be 8 pounds with the semi-auto parts, a bolt may go lighter hopefully. A 308 Win 18.6" Bolt action bullpup with a decent trigger, a single top rail option to mount optics, weighing in around 7 pounds would be outstanding.
 
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I've been searching the forums for any knowledge or existence of one. All I can find is the DTA-SRS. A bit heavy at 10 1/2 pounds with all the rails. Would be nice to see a lighter option. If the Keltec RFB can be 8 pounds with the semi-auto parts, a bolt may go lighter hopefully. A 308 Win 18.6" Bolt action bullpup with a decent trigger, a single top rail option to mount optics, weighing in around 7 pounds would be outstanding.
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You can get a DTA Covert Upgrade Kit or just cut the SRS forearm but you would only save .45 lbs because with the barrel removed the chassis feels like a featherweight. With the barrel in the balance point is just in front of the trigger guard which combined with its short length makes it feel lighter than any other 10+ lb gun I have handled. I don't think you would see a lighter 26-inch barrel option that shoots as well as heavier guns and I personal don't like shooting lightweight magnums. Now if you're talking .223 or 22-250 that's different but I wouldn't use those calibers for a 5k precision rifle. The reality is "10 1/2 pounds" for a long range rig is about as anorexic as ya get without trading off accuracy and recoil.
 
I see this posting often so I must ask Rick from ATRS. Is is possible to make a receiver mated to the chassis similar to AI AW rifles?

On a side note, I do believe an all canadian rifle would be great but maybe a suggestion for a production style rifle around $3500-4000 and hit the price point of $5000 with those added extras. I am not trying to flame or belittle the services of ATRS when I suggest a production rifle. I have seen 3 examples of ATRS custom builds and they are worth the cash.
 
I would be interested in one as a long term investment. Looking at a possible option for replacing my Tikka T3 and want to look into a high end dual purpose rifle platform.

I wouldn't be able to drop $5500 on a system today, but I would be interested in saving up for one. Though I am eagerly waiting to hear if your semi auto 308 will be classified NR.
 
sendero said:
did i read BLUEPRINTING and ACCURIZING JOB on a surgeon action ??? you just pay 500$ more then you should have Buddy :)
i have one and they have installed the Kreiger barrel on it AS IS and it's a awesome shooter. That being said, i will also sell it ON THE SPOT (if i need to) to buy one 100% canadian made by ATR

Keep the good work ATR
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A lot of custom actions require blueprinting and accurizing. In fact, it's usually just better off (cheaper) to get a remington 700 action accurized and blueprinted then dealing with a custom action.

I'm really interested to see the final build, sounds interesting! $5500 isn't out of line at all for a custom gun. Yes, they are a bit cheaper in the U.S. (with the exception of Surgeon and some others), but with all the extra costs of doing business in Canada as Rick outlines, $5500 isn't bad at all. I have a U.S. made custom "tactical/precision" .308 being made that is north of $5500.
 
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Matt_dal123 said:
Spiral fluted :)

You have me. But I know how much ATR hate spiral fluted actions an barrels.
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No problem, you just do the math for the gear ratios on the dividing head, and I'll mill one up for you;) It can be done, but what a headache!
I'd be happy with a straight up bull barrel. Who cares about weight on a bench rifle for non-competitive shooters???
Sure flute it for more stiffness that doesn't throw you over weight restrictions for competition, but Jeeeeeez!

Build us a 1/4moa Maple Leaf Long Gun and we'll buy! (as long as I can get it in 300WM)
 
I am going to re-animate this thread to say I would really like to see a relatively affordable (preferably sub 3k) bullpup bolt action rifle made in Canada.
 
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