is this legal? : A ruger 10/22 into pistol?

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Hey guys, say a person takes a ruger 10/22

and cuts the butt stock off the stock, so its pistol grip, then cuts the barrel down

say its all over 5" barrel etc, can it be considered a restricted firearm as a pistol? or does it somehow become Prohibited?
 
What you're describing would be a "sawn-off rifle", and therefore prohibited, but if a MANUFACTURER like Volquartsen does it... no problem.

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https://www.volquartsen.com/vc/public/ListFamilies.do?categoryID=5
 
Al Flipo said:
Why did Ruger not think of this first I wonder.
And comparing a guy with a hacksaw and a vice to a licensed manufacturer to is a little ridicules wouldn’t you say?
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Sure it's ridiculous, but it's also the way our law is written.
 
As long as the rifle is 660mm or more in total length then it is OK. :!: If not it will be prohibited. This is directly from the firearms legislation book. It is also in the verifiers CD pack from the CFC's FRT program.
 
Norcyaddict762 said:
As long as the rifle is 660mm or more in total length then it is OK. :!: If not it will be prohibited. This is directly from the firearms legislation book. It is also in the verifiers CD pack from the CFC's FRT program.
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Not quite; the barrel also cannot be cut down any shorter than 470mm, and since the 10/22 already has a barrel shorter than 470, you wouldn't be able to cut the barrel at all.
 
guys if i buy an 80% reciever meant for a 10/22... finish it and re register, could i build it as a pistol?


it would be a virgin receiver, so no buttstock or long barrel has been mounted on it...

technically could i engrave a new name, serial number and register it as a different gun than a 10.22?
 
SDC said:
Norcyaddict762 said:
As long as the rifle is 660mm or more in total length then it is OK. :!: If not it will be prohibited. This is directly from the firearms legislation book. It is also in the verifiers CD pack from the CFC's FRT program.
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Not quite; the barrel also cannot be cut down any shorter than 470mm, and since the 10/22 already has a barrel shorter than 470, you wouldn't be able to cut the barrel at all.
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Sorry the length is 660mm (end to end) and this is what I see in my FRT CD regs. The total length from barrel end to grip must be 660mm or longer to be legal, if it falls under 660mm it becomes a prohibited firearm by length.

Are we thinking of cutting down the barrel here futher? I advise against this as you'll be loosing accuracy. Advice: Keep the 10/22 the way it is, you'll be better for it and you won't run into problems with the verifiers :wink:
 
There's actually two separate measurements you have to worry about here; the barrel length and the overall length. If you cut any barrel shorter than 457mm, it becomes prohibited, and if you can fold, retract, collapse, or otherwise shorten the overall length of a firearm below 660mm and still fire it, it becomes restricted. There are also a few other odds and ends you need to worry about in this regard (is it designed and intended to be aimed and fired with the action of one hand, is it in a "bullpup" stock, etc., etc.), but those are the main ones.
 
C&W Metall Werks (people who make the krinker plinker kit) will make ya a barrel any length you want. Tell them to ship the barrel attached to a 10/22 receiver and marked as restricted due to OAL, then you'll be able to have a nice little Ruger 10/22 pistol. They are doing this for me so I can make a restricted Krinker Plinker so it's can have a folding stock :D
 
Al Flipo said:
Why did Ruger not think of this first I wonder.
And comparing a guy with a hacksaw and a vice to a licensed manufacturer to is a little ridicules wouldn’t you say?
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Cutting a Ruger 10/22 down into a Pistol is a little ridiculous :roll:
 
It becomes prohibited if you cut down the stock barrel. But suppose he were to purchase a short barrel. And also a pistol grip.

He removes the barrel action from the stock and removes the old barrel. He now installs the new parts.

I say he has created a restricted weapon with the new parts.



Joe.
 
joeschmoe said:
It becomes prohibited if you cut down the stock barrel. But suppose he were to purchase a short barrel. And also a pistol grip.

He removes the barrel action from the stock and removes the old barrel. He now installs the new parts.

I say he has created a restricted weapon with the new parts.



Joe.
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Sorry, but you can not re-classify a non-restricted into a restricted without going staight to prohib. It sucks, but there is no legal way to create a restricted out of a non-restricted. The project your talking about could be done only with a new "virgin" reciever, registered from the outset as restricted.

I too wanted to make up a short 8" barreled 10/22 with a folding stock, but importing it as such was the only option available.

You would think that since you can rebarrel a short semi like the M1 Carbine, and reclassify it as a non-restrcted, that it would be possible to do the same with a non-restricted. Doesn't fly unfortunately.
 
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