How do I get a rail stock for my AO M1, like you have ?
Israeli M1 carbines - making a silk purse of a sow's ear?
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How do I get a rail stock for my AO M1, like you have ?
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I put a WTB years ago. It was modded for a AO. So it doesn't tuck under the handguard clip.
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I just went through all the sponsors, no M1's available. Well may one, but their stuff looked like it had been dragged behind Yak for 5 years. When I was a kid in the US you could pick up M1's for $75USD. The NRA had a special youth program for shooting M1's. I could never get my dad to buy one. He hated them for some reason. Oh well.....
I managed to score one of the Israeli Choate folders from SFRC when they had their deal a few years ago.
It’s a great shooter! I put it in a reproduction airborne stock and love it!
"confirmed - Epps as at least a couple left. They have an underwood and an inland on their website. the underwood in a choate folder, the inland in a wood stock. The folder is much cheaper."
Ya that's the one I saw. Looks pretty rough. I suppose that's typical, is it?
Ya that's the one I saw. Looks pretty rough. I suppose that's typical, is it?
Yes. All the Israeli wood stocked guns I’ve seen were beat. The choate stocked guns are usually nicer, but of course, you’d need wood to restore to gi trim.
That said, all the carbines I’ve seen just needed things like the odd changed spring or some elbow grease to look or function ok.
As an update, I recently acquired an underwood barrelled receiver. The barrel is shootable, but someone removed the gi markings and it’s restricted.
I have an inland gi barrel I could use, or an extra criterion non restricted. Will probably go criterion. I have all the needed parts to build it up, a mix of Israeli surplus parts from things I replaced on the above two guns (where I put inland parts on them to make them more correct), and some parts from the bin.
So will soon post a new build here that’s partly Israeli surplus (though receiver is not).
Likely Israeli surplus parts:
- bolt
- sights
- trigger guard
- barrel band
- hammer
- stock
Everything else will be stuff I had, mostly nos usgi parts.
Should turn out well, will be in a post-war refurb from, sort of a Korea war homage in an m2 potbelly walnut stock.
I have an inland gi barrel I could use, or an extra criterion non restricted. Will probably go criterion. I have all the needed parts to build it up, a mix of Israeli surplus parts from things I replaced on the above two guns (where I put inland parts on them to make them more correct), and some parts from the bin.
So will soon post a new build here that’s partly Israeli surplus (though receiver is not).
Likely Israeli surplus parts:
- bolt
- sights
- trigger guard
- barrel band
- hammer
- stock
Everything else will be stuff I had, mostly nos usgi parts.
Should turn out well, will be in a post-war refurb from, sort of a Korea war homage in an m2 potbelly walnut stock.
Shot it last weekend. Grouping 2 or 3 moa depending on ammo, not bad for an m1 carbine. It’s shooting too high though, so I just swapped in a taller front sight before taking it out next. Hopefully it shoots better from an elevation perspective now.
Well I completed another carbine, though this one isn't really ex-isreali per se. This one started as an underwood barelled action I bought. the barrel on it turned out to have been sanitized and machined down in diameter - a real shame as it was the original barrel and had a nice bore. It got removed and New non-restricted criterion barrel installed.
I did use a small number of surplus parts off other ex-isreali carbines, including the buttstock (Springfield Armory walnut M2 stock), the trigger housing (rock-ola), safety and rear sight. Everything else is GI, but not from the israeli imports. In case anyone is curious, the trigger and bolt are IBM. Extractor underwood, pin is Inland, band is inland, slide is winchester, handguard is inland 2 rivet, sight is an inland sub-cotnractor, front sight is inland. Recoil plate is Std Prod. Sling is Korea war era GI surplus.
I have test fired it for function, now just waiting for is to be de-registered. Was a fun project ot use up some of my stock of spare carbine parts - I really only had to buy the barrel and receiver. May list this one on the EE when it's properly de-registered. We'll see. I think it turned out as a nice representative post-war refurb.
I did use a small number of surplus parts off other ex-isreali carbines, including the buttstock (Springfield Armory walnut M2 stock), the trigger housing (rock-ola), safety and rear sight. Everything else is GI, but not from the israeli imports. In case anyone is curious, the trigger and bolt are IBM. Extractor underwood, pin is Inland, band is inland, slide is winchester, handguard is inland 2 rivet, sight is an inland sub-cotnractor, front sight is inland. Recoil plate is Std Prod. Sling is Korea war era GI surplus.
I have test fired it for function, now just waiting for is to be de-registered. Was a fun project ot use up some of my stock of spare carbine parts - I really only had to buy the barrel and receiver. May list this one on the EE when it's properly de-registered. We'll see. I think it turned out as a nice representative post-war refurb.
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As an aside, I took some pics of cool original WW2 packaging of some spare parts. This IBM trigger went into the above build and the inland mag release went on my other non-restricted inland M1.
It's neat you can still find NOS parts from WW2.
It's neat you can still find NOS parts from WW2.
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I recently bought two of the Israeli M1 Carbines in the Choate folding stocks and they are in surprisingly good condition. Very cool handy little rifles and handle beautifully. Still full of reddish brown israeli sand too.
I emailed back and forth a bit with Fred Choate recently, the president of Choate Machine, and he gave me many interesting tidbits of info, one of which I have a screenshot here to share:
Pretty cool stuff.
I emailed back and forth a bit with Fred Choate recently, the president of Choate Machine, and he gave me many interesting tidbits of info, one of which I have a screenshot here to share:
Pretty cool stuff.
Not really sure. These photos are of a mix of the wood stocked guns and choate folders in use, they all seem to be using wider web slings with a speed hook of some sort and maybe some type of fabric or something wrapped around the metal hook so it doesn't gouge up the stock. Maybe Galil slings? Not sure how the yare attached on the rear of the carbines with wood stocks, but presumably they either wrap around the oiler like usual or are looping a piece of para cord around the oiler to clip to. They all seem to be somewhat obscured by mag pouches "GI Style" on all the pics I found of wood stocked guns, or the photos are from poor angles.
