Issue resolved - Experience of buying sks from store

SigWig said:
^the ad says hand select no rust. Every spring shown is rusted up. I wonder what the barrel and gas system looks like

What I see is a $250 dollar gun
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It also says pretty clearly, and this is a quote from the ad: THESE RIFLES ARE REFURBISHED AND ARE IN FAIR CONDITION. SMALL MARKS AND BUMPS MAY BE FOUND ON THE STOCK. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THE CONDITION OF THESE RIFLES.

Personally i wouldnt buy from anyone with a statement like this, but at the same time i get they have to protect themselves legally from people who may try to do a chargeback over a tiny spec of new rust on a B GRADE surplus rifle. The prices are ridiculous yes, but the guy paid it voluntarily with the knowledge that the company couldnt guarantee every spring was rust free. Cabelas wont even do exchanges or refunds for firearms if they ship you a broken gun and theyre under a multi billion dollar company.
 
JMO, but you don't have that very clean !! My suggestion is to visit websites like SKSboards .com and get all the info you can. YT is a good source but you have to know what you're doing 'cause some of the 'wrench-jockeys' there are dangerous. Also, '' yooperj .com '' has tons of info about 'all' SKSs.
OR as bearhunter said, Look for someone to 'mentor' you in all things 'firey'.
 
apexanimal said:
It also says pretty clearly, and this is a quote from the ad: THESE RIFLES ARE REFURBISHED AND ARE IN FAIR CONDITION. SMALL MARKS AND BUMPS MAY BE FOUND ON THE STOCK. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THE CONDITION OF THESE RIFLES.

Personally i wouldnt buy from anyone with a statement like this, but at the same time i get they have to protect themselves legally from people who may try to do a chargeback over a tiny spec of new rust on a B GRADE surplus rifle. The prices are ridiculous yes, but the guy paid it voluntarily with the knowledge that the company couldnt guarantee every spring was rust free. Cabelas wont even do exchanges or refunds for firearms if they ship you a broken gun and theyre under a multi billion dollar company.
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They might not be that protected, but it'd be between the Solely and the credit card company.

The same ad also says, and this is also quoted from the ad: "These SKS Rifles are all been hand selected to ensure each rifle is functional, no cracks in the stock, no rusting parts, bright silver blade and in a nice shape." which sounds like a guarantee to me. At least in my opinion, "functional" should mean all mechanical features work. Could argue the pitting on the springs meaning they had been rusted previously, but I don't think it'd be as much of a sticking point as the bolt hold open not working if it came up in a chargeback dispute, especially if they'd consider an attempted fix by Solely as an indicator that something is not working, or else there'd be nothing to fix.
 
jstin said:
I would say that your "bolt hold open thing" is corroded and not sliding easily. If you are forced to keep the rifle, I would suggest getting a good lubricant, strip the rifle down so it is easy to get at latch. Spray and then work latch until it moves freely. Put rifle back together and see if the follower will lift the latch to keep bolt open. Good luck.
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I think this is the problem too. The follower should lift it to obstruct the path of the bolt on last round. See if it is mobile or stuck down with grease. Your last pic it almost looks like a piece is sheared off.
 
Yes but if an ad makes a claim as to the condition and then blatantly says WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THE CONDITION it's beyond obvious which part any person should put the most stock into. At any rate its a fvcking sks, just replace the 50 cent spring and move on.
 
No refunds does not equal no rights....

I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

While the "no refunds or exchanges" policies are common in firearms sales, these policies can not be lawfully invoked when you were sold something that was misrepresented. The rifle is defective and therefore is not functional as advertised.

By cleaning it you have done what you need to ensure it can functional properly. Get a refund and/or file a dispute with the credit card company.

In Ontario, the Consumer Protection Act regulates this transaction. Here are some relevant parts:


PART III
UNFAIR PRACTICES
False, misleading or deceptive representation
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.....(1) It is an unfair practice for a person to make a false, misleading or deceptive representation. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 14 (1).

.....Examples of false, misleading or deceptive representations
.....(2) Without limiting the generality of what constitutes a false, misleading or deceptive representation, the following are included as false, misleading or deceptive representations:

..........1. A representation that the goods or services have sponsorship, approval, performance characteristics, accessories, uses, ingredients, benefits or qualities they do not have.

..........3. A representation that the goods or services are of a particular standard, quality, grade, style or model, if they are not.

Unfair practices prohibited
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.....(1) No person shall engage in an unfair practice. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 17 (1).

.....One act deemed practice
.....(2) A person who performs one act referred to in section 14, 15 or 16 shall be deemed to be engaging in an unfair practice. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 17 (2).

Rescinding agreement
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.....(1) Any agreement, whether written, oral or implied, entered into by a consumer after or while a person has engaged in an unfair practice may be rescinded by the consumer and the consumer is entitled to any remedy that is available in law, including damages. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 18 (1).
 
The ad days functional and no rust, period.

OP, do a charge back on the credit card, you are entitled. You gave them a chance to make it good and they refused, so now you take it to the cc company.
 
This brings up something else that I’ve noticed more and more lately, and that is why so many people are so reluctant to buy things face to face. Especially surplus rifles like these, unless OP lives somewhere extremely remote, I’ve almost always been able to find sales of SKS nearby, just go in person, or buy used. I find buying a surplus rifles especially like buying a used car sight unseen.

Not that I condone this, Solely Outdoors pulled a shady one on you here.
 
Clearly stated in the listing."These SKS Rifles are all been hand selected to ensure each rifle is functional, no cracks in the stock, no rusting parts, bright silver blade and in a nice shape."

I would say that this is not fully functional and definitely not rust free. Mostly the disclaimer on condition refers to cosmetic. I would say that they should replace the rifle. It is not what was advertised.
 
Chingas said:
Clearly stated in the listing."These SKS Rifles are all been hand selected to ensure each rifle is functional, no cracks in the stock, no rusting parts, bright silver blade and in a nice shape."

I would say that this is not fully functional and definitely not rust free. Mostly the disclaimer on condition refers to cosmetic. I would say that they should replace the rifle. It is not what was advertised.
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Did you read the large capital letters that say none of that is guaranteed lol. It's a no brainer to avoid this deal, op got burned but recieved exactly what was advertised. Chargebacks dont protect people from poor judgment/reading comprehension.
 
All the left over russian grade "hand picked" are left over garbage after all the good ones got picked clean. You should have bought the chinese spike bayonet, those were in PRISTINE condition
 
apexanimal said:
It also says pretty clearly, and this is a quote from the ad: THESE RIFLES ARE REFURBISHED AND ARE IN FAIR CONDITION. SMALL MARKS AND BUMPS MAY BE FOUND ON THE STOCK. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THE CONDITION OF THESE RIFLES.

Personally i wouldnt buy from anyone with a statement like this, but at the same time i get they have to protect themselves legally from people who may try to do a chargeback over a tiny spec of new rust on a B GRADE surplus rifle. The prices are ridiculous yes, but the guy paid it voluntarily with the knowledge that the company couldnt guarantee every spring was rust free. Cabelas wont even do exchanges or refunds for firearms if they ship you a broken gun and theyre under a multi billion dollar company.
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I would presume that a business selling firearms would use NRA standards to classify condition - "fair condition" does not necessarily mean what you think or what you want it to mean - NRA grading scheme for Modern firearms says "FAIR: In safe working condition but well worn, perhaps requiring replacement of minor parts or adjustments which should be indicated in advertisement, no rust, but may have corrosion pits which do not render article unsafe or inoperable." (I added the underlining)

If it is considered an NRA Antique firearm (not Modern firearm), gets even worse: "FAIR: Some major parts replaced; minor replacement parts may be required; metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or re-blued; rounded edges of metal and wood; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated; wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken; in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order.

Is as if that ad used the NRA Antique firearm definition of "fair condition" to describe that firearm.
 
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Sounds like SO should replace the rifle, all things considered. Assuming they're aware of this thread, and, how long it takes to build-up a good reputation/how fast that can erode=seems like it would be a smart idea on their part?

I've been in there a few times, last time was 15 minutes before they closed. I went in to buy some 12ga target loads they had on sale and they seemed borderline annoyed that a customer would dare show-up during business hours. Wasn't there to browse/waste time, just that one item. They were already closing the iron curtain around the guns rack/counter. I suggested they change their hours to reflect their actual 6:45pm closing time.

Been in there a few times, not sure customer service is their forte. I'll keep an eye on the sales, but like everyone I work hard for what little $ I can throw at this sport. Don't need attitude from the other side of the counter.
 
apexanimal said:
Did you read the large capital letters that say none of that is guaranteed lol. It's a no brainer to avoid this deal, op got burned but recieved exactly what was advertised. Chargebacks dont protect people from poor judgment/reading comprehension.
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Why even state that they are selected to ensure no rusted parts? if this is indeed not true at all, Just remove that statement all together and say could be good could be crap up to you roll the dice.
 
.22LRGUY said:
Sounds like SO should replace the rifle, all things considered. Assuming they're aware of this thread, and, how long it takes to build-up a good reputation/how fast that can erode=seems like it would be a smart idea on their part?
I've been in there a few times, last time was 15 minutes before they closed. I went in to buy some 12ga target loads they had on sale and they seemed borderline annoyed that a customer would dare show-up during business hours. Wasn't there to browse/waste time, just that one item. They were already closing the iron curtain around the guns rack/counter. I suggested they change their hours to reflect their actual 6:45pm closing time.
Been in there a few times, not sure customer service is their forte. I'll keep an eye on the sales, but like everyone I work hard for what little $ I can throw at this sport. Don't need attitude from the other side of the counter.
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This is interesting comment. I've never been to the Solely's storefront but I've been doing quite a bit of online ammo purchases from them. The last order I made on May 31/2023. Never ever had any problems. Their shipping was very fast and everything was accurate as ordered. On top of it, they have free shipping over $300.
Having said that I've never ordered any gun from Solely. The OP's SKS looks like a POS. Pitted and rusted. Definitely not worth over $700. Perhaps, that's their weak point where they do not pay enough attention to the condition of firearms they are selling.
 
A friend of mine bought a new/old Chinese SKS and it had some rusted parts (cleaning kit and buttplate, trigger guard).
Solely basically told him that they can't do much
 
Jack13579 said:
Thanks for the feedback!

https://imgur.com/a/PJXyrpO

The third photo is the bolt hold open thing - with an empty magazine inserted it will not extend out properly to block the bolt. It can be pushed if I poke it with a screwdriver. Not sure how to remove it as it is not part of the cleaning instruction I followed on youtube. I was told that it is too rough/tight.

Photo 1 - the magazine holder spring was terribly rusted, and not functioning properly. The store clerk basically told me I have to get a new spring from eBay. Any link to places to get this would be appreciated!
Photo 2 - the spring for the bolt is badly pitted - is that normal?
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Contact High Caliber Services: they have all kinds of SKS spare parts, and Dave is extremely knowledgeable on the platform.
 
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