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I , i sold a h&r handi rifle .500 s&w to a guy .

This rifle past in many hand before i sell it , my gunsmith have in hands the last because i planned to gun-coat it .
but in last days .. the days i tell i gonna erase my post and stay with the rifle , A guy tell me he will give me the price for the gun .
So i go to my gunsmith store and pick up my rifle send it faster i can at the new owner .
I always try to send the faster way , because i know is not fun to wait for rifle i hate it and everybody hate it .
before i sell it , a couple time a guy ask to me to sell to him only the barrel because he liked to have conversion on is Buffalo classic .
Many people inspect the rifle , my gunsmith inspect it and tell me is like a new with minor use marks .
I shot about 10 rounds of hornady 300 gr flextip , and i buy a box of cor bon with .

i send the gun , and the buyer when he receive it telling me the rifle is soo rusty than he was thinking i shoot blackpowder in and never clean it ........ and have on action brass gold circle on and that is high pressure signs , He telling me i was shooting high powder loaded ammo so . first i have .45-70 govt h&r too and my h&r have same gold circle on action and i shoot 28 000 cup load only , is normal to have it i tell , but for him i am a liar and scam .
I not know how a gun like new condition can become a rusty piece of crap in 8 days past in canadapost office .

the guy ask for refund
but i not work , i do that for my hobby
the only money that make me do is for my food .

so now i telling me he will show to everyone i'm liar and wanted to tell all that to the moderator , for ..... i don't know maybe expulse my from CGN.
Is fun to try to make right when someone tell this .
What i can do , refund him with compensation or what
 
If I understand what you are trying to say correctly.
You sold a gun to someone and they were not happy with its condition. I suggest that you get them to return it to you and give them a refund of what they paid.
 
VancouverSkiBum said:
ask him to send you a picture of the damage. if its a shipping damage issue then insurance claim.
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I agree. Get him to send you a pic. If Canada Post damaged it pursue what recourse you can with them. If he is just unhappy I would ask that he ships the rifle back on his dime and you give him a refund.

Two things to note. 1) Brass rings on the bolt face or receiver are common on many rifles and not a sign of high pressure, the buyer is wrong on this. 2) it sound like from your post you " try to send items the faster way" if this means express post it is against Canada Post rules to ship a firearm with anything but regular parcel post. In the future just use the cheap option with signature option and insurance.
 
gunguy23 said:
If I understand what you are trying to say correctly.
You sold a gun to someone and they were not happy with its condition. I suggest that you get them to return it to you and give them a refund of what they paid.
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Venom, should you decide to go this route have the current owner send pictures of the said alleged issues and compare your pictures before refunding any monies. Not mention the shipping back to you should be on his nickel along with the appropriate insurance.

Sounds more like buyers remorse than anything else.
I use a Can.Post Venture Card(free to join) and it saves me a few dollars on large ticket items and has a delivery time of three to seven days most places in Canada.
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Rob
 
I completely disagree, I had a similar sulituation, a guy buys a rifle, no questions asked, a month later he contacts me and demands a "partial refund" I said no, so he threatens me with bad feedback... I stood my ground, and found out through the grapevine that this is a somewhat common tactic by certain scumbag cgn users to buck the trader rating system. They buy hot items with the sole intent to flip them for profit one way or another. My advise is out the bastard and stand your ground.
 
LuckyLuc82 said:
I completely disagree, I had a similar sulituation, a guy buys a rifle, no questions asked, a month later he contacts me and demands a "partial refund" I said no, so he threatens me with bad feedback... I stood my ground, and found out through the grapevine that this is a somewhat common tactic by certain scumbag cgn users to buck the trader rating system. They buy hot items with the sole intent to flip them for profit one way or another. My advise is out the bastard and stand your ground.
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There are a few on this site I will not deal with again because of this tactic. Sole driving factor is to get something "cheap".
 
Ask him to ship it back to you. If it's in the same shape that it was when you sent it then give him his money back. If he refuses to send it back then consider the deal done and leave him bad feedback.
 
Sellers sometimes have a hard time describing the faults in there items. Buyers expect the condition in which it is described.

The best sellers on here offer a short inspection period/ return policy if not happy. This should be the norm.

Like it or not, the condition of the firearm is usually the sole driver in the price. If you ignore the faults in your product when you sell it, and refuse the return, prepare to get bad feedback.
 
Buckmastr said:
Sellers sometimes have a hard time describing the faults in there items. Buyers expect the condition in which it is described.

The best sellers on here offer a short inspection period/ return policy if not happy. This should be the norm.

Like it or not, the condition of the firearm is usually the sole driver in the price. If you ignore the faults in your product when you sell it, and refuse the return, prepare to get bad feedback.
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True, but on the flipside, there are buyers who expect a used firearm to be in new condition, without the attached price. I don't think it's necessary for a seller to disclose every little imperfection on a well used firearm. When I'm buying a used hunting rifle, I expect there'll be wear.
 
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Come on.
No buyer expects a firearm described as "used" or "hunted with" to be new. Sellers generally have overstated opinions of condition that somehow represent excessive asking prices.
Buyers should be given the benefit of the doubt in most cases knowing that it would help promote the true condition and value of firearms in the EE. I really like how the good sellers on the EE have no problem with an non fire exchange. And know how to take good pictures.
 
Sounds like buyers remorse... his tough luck... he can resell it if he doesn't want it... the H&R's in .500 S&W generally sell fast.
 
This is why it is always best practice to take and post lots of pics in your ad, describe your item properly and leave your ad up marked spf until you get your feedback....
 
Tacki had the perfect EE ad way yonder.
Something about a piece ho chit for sale with photos to prove.
Nothing to be construed as new, perfect, one of a kind..........oh wait..........
 
is what i think , because he tell me have large rust pit in chamber , and 1/3 of barrel was pit by rust ..... and when i send the gun is like new , no rust , no scratch except a little thing on muzzle but nothing majors .
i tell that to the gunsmith where i left my rifle , and he start laughing at this , He tell me if i needed he help me with that i know me , hi have couple rifle with pitting in barrel ... what i do with i give to my gunsmith not sale it .

I send to him lot of picture , and muzzle and chamber , rifling picture .
no rust on picture ,
He tell me he gonna send me picture of the rust in some hours , He tell me this friday ..... so still not have the pictures .
Maybe he try to find some rust barrel picture on internet .... i don't know

the guy treat me like liar and coward , if i just tell me is not what i was expected do you can refund me please .... but no
He tell me he gonna show this story to moderator and let people know on CGN him not trust . is my 14 year i sold & buy firearms , in that 14 year i have only 2 guy with negative feedback and the 2 guy make about same story on the gun .

the first one was 5 year ago , i have a browning 1885 special edition with 24k gold plated in , octagonal barrel .45-70 govt , the blue was dark and shinny like Mirror , wood was grade AA , gold plated trigger , never fired i sold it to 1200$ only many sold it 2500$ in usa because of is special edition . the rifle was in my gunsmith store behind a window just for showing with collection winchester rifle , .. i take dawn glove to touch this rifle .
I sell it ship the gun to the guy , he receive it 2 weeks later he tell me the barrel is rusted , the breech block not work , i can not fired with , hard to open it ........
So he ask me to refund him and give him compensation for is lost . telling me because he buy my rifle i lost is chance to buy another one , and because my rifle is rusted he lost the other one .
I have to go in court with .... i finaly fund the guy shoot blackpowder in rifle , not cleaned and that rust and he wanted me to refund him because of that ...

And the other guy come with about same store this friday ...... so i was think is same thing
 
to rust a barrel is easy to do , he can make it by many way , just vinegar , salt , or blackpowder .
I tell me i have probably use blackpowder ammo in ...... i not see many 500 s&w ammo in blackpowder .
That happen a couple time in store , have Pro nature close to my house and the guy tell me is happen , many go in the wood with rifle and water fall on not clean it , the day after have surface rust .
come in store ask to refund or trade ..... many not clean is firearms . My stepfather was one like this , buy a rifle of 2000$ go in wood scratch it the first day , let the rifle in sand , the day after scratch on , surface rust , some leaf pièces on and in .
tell to clean rust but he only put some vegetal oïl on ..... Maybe is that with this guy
 
someone come to me a days with rifle i sold to him , and i tell me the barrel is rust at the end of the chamber , you sold me scrap , so i take the gun go to my office where all my cleaning tool was , and pass Hoppe 9 in , and a little over size bore brush ......... oh what is that lead have some lead fouling the chamber ending , the barrel was brigth , have little at middle of the barrel same thing hoppe 9 over size bore bruch and is clean too . The guy not know what tell , i finaly be sorry to tell me all the #### he tell , and i buy from again .
 
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