Issues extracting live rounds from 10/22

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Hi all,

My new 10/22 sporting a Ballistic Advantage 10" Spiral Fluted Barrel, refuses to manually extract rounds from the chamber. I understand these barrels have a tighter chamber for accuracy, but it's still unsafe to not be able to extract a live round. When I fire the round, it extracts perfectly fine.

Is there a common solution to this?

Here is the rifle in question:

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What it most likely means is that you'll have to shoot a higher grade of ammo in it than you probably are. It's a lesson I learned when I decided it would be clever to break in a new Anschutz bolt action with bulk rounds and most of it wouldn't extract after firing. With a precision .22 you need bullets that are also built to a high spec, brass and lead both.
 
Big Bad said:
What it most likely means is that you'll have to shoot a higher grade of ammo in it than you probably are. It's a lesson I learned when I decided it would be clever to break in a new Anschutz bolt action with bulk rounds and most of it wouldn't extract after firing. With a precision .22 you need bullets that are also built to a high spec, brass and lead both.
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what does this have to do with manually extracting live rounds
 
There are literally dozens of types of chamber designs. Many designed to shoot certain ammo’s or target ammo. Target chambers are often shorter and when loaded the bullet actually is Jammed into the (lands) start of the rifling. This is what makes extracting live ammo difficult. Options are to remove the magazine engage the safety and cycle the bolt manually like your clearing a jammed pistol, usually works. Or you will have to discharge the round to clear the chambered round! I have had or have several rimfires that do not like to have loaded rounds extracted.
 
Overlander2018 said:
Hi all,

My new 10/22 sporting a Ballistic Advantage 10" Spiral Fluted Barrel, refuses to manually extract rounds from the chamber. I understand these barrels have a tighter chamber for accuracy, but it's still unsafe to not be able to extract a live round. When I fire the round, it extracts perfectly fine.

Is there a common solution to this?

Here is the rifle in question:

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I've sorted this problem out with aftermarket extractors in the past.
 
I’ve seen a bullet jam into the lands hard enough that an attempt to extract it led to a bunch of powder in the action, empty brass that was still primed, and time to go get the squib rod. Could have been nasty if another round had been chambered.
 
Big Bad said:
What it most likely means is that you'll have to shoot a higher grade of ammo in it than you probably are. It's a lesson I learned when I decided it would be clever to break in a new Anschutz bolt action with bulk rounds and most of it wouldn't extract after firing. With a precision .22 you need bullets that are also built to a high spec, brass and lead both.
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I only use CCI Mini Mags. Is that considered bulk ammo?
 
This is my hiking, camping, grouse hunting gun. I don't really want it to be picky with ammo to be honest. And it was annoying having to shoot a round to make the gun safe every time I killed a grouse, especially when I'm hunting with my kids. I might try to rack the bolt back more aggressively, but I suspect it's the bullet itself that is causing the round to stay stuck.
 
struff55 said:
what does this have to do with manually extracting live rounds
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You might be surprised. For example I had six 44-40 reloads out of a box of 50 that took serious camming force to chamber into my 1873 (and outright refused entry into my 1885). They extracted just fine after firing, but I would NOT have been able to extract those live rounds without a range rod otherwise.

Brass is funny...
 
Longstud said:
There are literally dozens of types of chamber designs. Many designed to shoot certain ammo’s or target ammo. Target chambers are often shorter and when loaded the bullet actually is Jammed into the (lands) start of the rifling. This is what makes extracting live ammo difficult. Options are to remove the magazine engage the safety and cycle the bolt manually like your clearing a jammed pistol, usually works. Or you will have to discharge the round to clear the chambered round! I have had or have several rimfires that do not like to have loaded rounds extracted.
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Putting a 10" target barrel on a backpacking gun doesn't make much sense, I should have probably done more research on this barrel. Maybe I should switch back to the original Ruger barrel that was included.
 
Have you tried to contact BA re this issue ? And have you measured CCI-MMs to compare to CCI-SV and others ? My CZ-VMTR has a 'snug Match chamber' and I have had No probs extracting ANY ammo of any brand. And I've fired about 10 diff flavours, including MMs.
 
For the $20 or so i would try an aftermarket extractor

Can you visually check that the extractor is fitting in the cut slot on the barrel without rubbing

Long ago had some FTE on a standard 10-22
Loosened the barrel v-block and rotated the barrel so the extractor was centered in the cut slot on the barrel Seemed to work
 
You need to make the tip of the right hand extractor sharper.

I used to chamber bolt actions with match grade barrels with a tight chamber. The bullet engaged the rifling and a sharp extractor tip was required.

Sharpen it up and see.
 
Might be worth clearing a round with a rod down the barrel and feeling how much pressure it takes?

If it's not an excessive amount of force required to push the cartridge back off the lands and or out of the chamber then it makes sense to look at how the extractor is interacting with the barrel and rim of the cartridge. Hopefully it's just not getting under the rim enough.
 
Pull the trigger....... with the rifle pointed in a safe direction . Fire the chambered round . There is no scenario that this should not be possible and safe.

Or with the bolt locked back, tip of a small pocket knife blade should extract the loaded round.

This is common with 1022 barrels with bentz and or target chambers. These chambers are meant to slightly engrave the bullet tip with the rifling. Improved accuracy is the goal . Green Mountain has a warning "loaded rounds may not extract" stamped on their barrels. The bullet shape and overall cartridge length also contributes.

Polishing and or replacing the extractor may help.
 
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357Maximum said:
Pull the trigger....... with the rifle pointed in a safe direction . There is no scenario that this should not be possible and safe
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What if you were at a mall? Inside your car? Thousands of other senarios...
357Maximum said:
With the bolt locked back, tip of a small pocket knife blade should extract the loaded round.
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If you had just pulled the trigger on a live round how are you extracting a live round?
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