It is illegal to hunt wild boar in Alberta

[flyr]

Cutting off hunting when there is no concentrated effort to trap them out is bull****.

 

[AlbertaJohn]

I remember what old Ralph said about the mad cow disease .... Shoot Shovel Shut up.
Me thinks the same applies here.

 

[Suther]

To encourage the establishment of an invasive species because of perceived or possible criminal activity should seem fairly silly?

I've literally explained how hunting actually tends to cause them to establish faster. If you want to ignore the lessons learned from decades of dealing with pigs in the USA, fill yer boots.

 

[Babs0404]

I remember what old Ralph said about the mad cow disease .... Shoot Shovel Shut up.
Me thinks the same applies here.

Yupper
I can’t imagine any farmer not blasting them?

 

[Suther]

Yupper
I can’t imagine any farmer not blasting them?

Well yeah.

And they can.

Hunting and trapping wild boar in Alberta is illegal, with the following exceptions:

Owners and occupants of land, and those assisting them, may hunt or trap wild boar on land they own or occupy in order to prevent the establishment of, or to control or destroy, wild boar.
Commercial operators with a valid permit.

https://www.alberta.ca/about-wild-boar-at-large#jumplinks-2

God forbid anyone actually read the OPs link...

 

[MiG25]

It's interesting that so called smart people are so fooking stupid.

BC did the same thing with wolves in the 1980's.

 

[Suther]

It's interesting that so called smart people are so fooking stupid.

BC did the same thing with wolves in the 1980's.

That's not the same thing at all. Wolves are native, and history shows we're pretty damn good at killing wolves.

 

[Bigbadwolf69]

Man, I sure hope they bring in some “professional hunters” in helicopters with silencer equipped AR-15’s again!
That would be awesome!!!

And spend at least 2 million in tax payer money doing ...That wod be even better

 

[MiG25]

That's not the same thing at all. Wolves are native, and history shows we're pretty damn good at killing wolves.

Boars have been extirpated from entire Countries.

 

[Rman]

Boars have been extirpated from entire Countries.

You'd think if we can keep rats out....
Then again, if a feller does see a rat, at least he is allowed to kill it.

R.

 

[MiG25]

 

[Shovel]

I know pigs are smart. Like problem solving smart. And I like bacon. I've heard feral pigs are not that great for bacon or pork chops. I'd try some if I had the opportunity. Not killing them to control their numbers makes no sense

 

[Mr Bill]

There are a couple high fence game farms in Quebec just a stones throw from Ottawa where you can shoot a pig for $4.75/lb live weight. 3 buddies were there a couple weeks ago. Not my cup of tea unless I had a helicopter and a million dollar contract.

 

[Duramax6.6]

Sounds like rhetoric straight out of Ontario.

I think the biologists have a point - the claim is that hunting pressure fractures pods and causes stress, so by hunting not only are we educating them and turning them nocturnal, we are supercharging the reproductive drive.

Most effective means of control is baiting and trapping. Better chance of trapping the whole pod jf they are uneducated.

It'll be interesting to see what kind of control strategies are actually implemented, that's for sure

Or a sounder.

 

[10x]

That would be true if slob Hunters didn't do dumb #### like transport them to new areas and purposely leave some alive to ensure they have pigs to hunt next year.

Plus attempting to kill pigs may not DIRECTLY increase numbers, but it does a few other things that lead to increased numbers: dispersion, turning them more nocturnal, and giving them a greater fear of humans, all of which make controlling populations harder.

Hunting pressure makes them harder to hunt. The same is true of the local whitetail bucks that, except for an 8 to 12 day rut, are nocturnal. Any game animal will increase in population when the young have all of the habitat resources to survive.
It is foolishness to allow hunting on private land adjacent to crown land where they can thrive and learn to evade capture or the smoke house
Wild boar are likely smarter than Whitetail and if hunted heavily would likely to be as difficult to hunt.

 

[I Dont Care About You]

Wild boar are likely smarter than Whitetail and if hunted heavily would likely to be as difficult to hunt.

Videos from the US seem tp suggest they are very easy to hunt. The problem is simply in their numbers and that they aren't being hunted, they are trying to exterminate them.

 

[Suther]

Videos from the US seem tp suggest they are very easy to hunt. The problem is simply in their numbers and that they aren't being hunted, they are trying to exterminate them.

Hunting A pig is easy. Hunting ALL the pigs is virtually impossible.

Comparing pigs to whitetail is silly. Pigs can give birth twice a year and put out 6-12 piglets each time. Their gestation period is under 4 months and they do not have a once-yearly breeding period like deer do. Deer also don't do the kind of ecological damage that wild pigs do.

 

[fingers284]

Horses don't. They aren't native, and they sure as hell aren't wild. They are feral.

Exactly... I have observed hundreds of so-called 'wildys", damn near 100% of them have the tell tale white patches of hair on their backs & withers from previous pack/riding saddle sores

 

[canadian hunter312]

To encourage the establishment of an invasive species because of perceived or possible criminal activity should seem fairly silly?
Criminals do criminal things. Punishing law abiding citizens because of that leads to legislation that doesn't make any sense? Look at our current state surrounding firearms? There has been no reduction in crime.
Big picture?
Are you not suggesting that not allowing hunting is the best option, because hunters will help spread the population?
Or is what you are saying more along this line?
"the claim is that hunting pressure fractures pods and causes stress, so by hunting not only are we educating them and turning them nocturnal, we are supercharging the reproductive drive.
Most effective means of control is baiting and trapping. Better chance of trapping the whole pod jf they are uneducated.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of control strategies are actually implemented, that's for sure"
Because that sure sounds a lot like "We are from the Government, don't worry, we'll take care of it" No?

R.

Why are you arguing that hunting is such a great means of controlling wild pig populations when we already have all the evidence we need that it doesn’t work?

The US is a great example showing that hunting does not work.

 

[Suther]

Why are you arguing that hunting is such a great means of controlling wild pig populations when we already have all the evidence we need that it doesn’t work?

The US is a great example showing that hunting does not work.

He's applying the "common sense" that Pierre is always talking about. Surface level ideas like "hunting pigs equals less pigs" is obviously the right answer because it makes sense to rural people with at best a high school education. #### the experts, #### experience, #### everything but muh feelings.