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Funny how life works sometimes ininnit? You start at the edge of Gun Geek Forest as a lad, you go in and slay dragons, take game, make friends...and when ya come out sometimes ya find you're right back where you started! So it goes for me.

When I was a kid I had no money. If it didn't come out of the bargain bin or off the used gun rack - it came out of the dumpster!:d At the time I thought it sucked but now as an old fart that can buy anything he wants within reason - I remember those days with fondness.

Most fondly remembered was an Auto Ordnance .45 1911 clone I bought. Its former owner was some rich kid who had built it into a race grade comp gun for IPSC shooting. At the time it was a fairly new sport and the gun had the compensator, trigger job and all the farkles the cool kids decked their guns out with. In a moment of lunacy, the kid took off all the removable accessories and traded it for something flashier. My wonderful wife loaned me some money and I went in to debt to buy that gun - and it was the best $400.00 bucks I ever spent on ANY gun since.

You've heard the whoppers old farts tell about their guns but I will chit you not: that used gun was blessed by the gun gods. EVERYONE shot it well. Rookies would pick it up and grin with delight at the tight groups it produced. Semi-skilled pikers like me could cut playing cards in half with it off hand at 25 yards. The experts who owned Colt Gold Cups turned surly and sour when they shot better with my used junker than they did with their hot rods. All good things come to an end - and for me it was a cracked barrel bushing that did it. After thousands upon thousands (upon thousands) of rounds the bushing gave up and apparently the barrel and bushing are the heart and soul of a tack driving .45. I bought a couple bushings out of the used gun parts bin but nothing worked. The gun still shot - but not like she once did. I still have it downstairs...it's pretty much a paper weight now. My new ride is an HK .45 USP Tactical that I bought about 5 years ago. It's a good gun and an honest one...but it is not a GREAT gun like the old Auto Ordnance was.

Who is making a tack driving production 1911 these? I know I can get any number of boutique voodoo guns that are supposedly forged over volcanic fires by Tibetan monks from sacred steel...but I don't want that. I want a 1911 that can cut a playing card in half at 25 yards with adjustable sights when handled by a good shooter. I don't care about exotic materials of construction, or flash and bling to impress the girls and frighten the other gun geeks. I want a gun that can be bought from P&D, or the boys at Prophet River or any other of the top shelf reputable dealers.

Your recommendations (and two cents) are, as always sincerely appreciated:)
 
A Les Baer Premier ll Monolith 45 ACP is incredibly accurate, after 1000 rounds, i am still astonished at the capabilitys of this pistol... Many will be sold or given to friends but this one like many more will go directly to my heirlooms... JP.
 
That spirit didn't come with the gun. It was put there by luck or the sweat and skills of a gunsmith that knew their 1911's. It's not too late to top up the skills tank on that old Auto Ordinance gun. It just needs the love and attention that a good and knowledgeable 1911 smith can provide. It needs someone that can fit a bushing correctly to restore your old gun.

But if you really must have a new gun by far the most amazing gun I've shot of any type and any brand was an STI Rangemaster. The two magazines I shot with it made me look better than I was by a bunch. It was for sale at the time and I now wish that I'd bought it. But at the time I didn't want a 1911 mutant. I wanted a faithful to the original 1911.

I've also got this Jerry Kuhnhausen book here that goes into a bunch of detail on making a 1911 really stand up and soar. But again it takes a lot of skill and sweat to fit the original or new parts with the attention needed for them to work like a well formed team. A good 1911 is far more than just a handful of parts from the assembly table. You can buy much of it when you plunk down the coin for a Les Baer, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk or any number of higher cost 1911's. Or you can pay a single good 1911 guy to do it all with a cheap starter gun.

Which brings up a good question. Who in Canada these days is a good 1911 smith?
 
I second the motion for EGW bushings. Go to their website, pick what you want. A little bit of polishing to get it to fit just right and you'll be back in business! Might even shoot a little tighter.
 
Don't know a damn thing about 1911s but you tell a good tale! ;) Sometimes the manufacturing tolerances slot machine comes up all cherries and sometimes all lemons.

Scary to think that IPSC is that old a sport! :)
 
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I always find these discussions interesting. I think it always comes down to "how good is good enough"? I think that ,like a lot of things, you often pay a great deal to get that last 5% improvement in performance and quality. Is a $3000 Les Baer or Ed Brown really more than twice as good as a $1400-1500 Colt or Springfield?

I've read some positive comments about the Dlask 1911's but don't know a lot about them other then being priced at 1500-2500 they would seem to aspire to compete with at least some some of the mid to higher end guys. Anyone have any experience with these?
 
Some of us have had a gun like that. It wore out. Haven't found a replacement that can match it. Close with a STI 6 inch 45 acp target Master, but not the same.
Going to try that card cutting thing now. My hands aren't so steady anymore either!!
 
Sorry if this post is a repeat, fellas! Some old farts let their gums flap in the breeze and run away with them...and some do it on a keyboard like me! No offense meant...I just hadn't had a day off in the last month and got out my HK for some fun today...and that got me thinking of old friends, old times - and old guns!

Gawd it was good to get out today. :)
 
Definitely consider having a gunsmith properly fit a new pushing to the old pistol, it should bring it right back.

As for new models, it really depend on your budget and the features that you like/dislike, there are a _lot_ of choice out there. I'm sort of partial to STI and not so much into Colt/Kimber; any of the semi-custom names (Les Baer/Ed Brown/Wilson/Nighthawk/Guncfrafter) will be a delight.
 
Funny how life works sometimes ininnit? You start at the edge of Gun Geek Forest as a lad, you go in and slay dragons, take game, make friends...and when ya come out sometimes ya find you're right back where you started! So it goes for me.

When I was a kid I had no money. If it didn't come out of the bargain bin or off the used gun rack - it came out of the dumpster!:d At the time I thought it sucked but now as an old fart that can buy anything he wants within reason - I remember those days with fondness.

Most fondly remembered was an Auto Ordnance .45 1911 clone I bought. Its former owner was some rich kid who had built it into a race grade comp gun for IPSC shooting. At the time it was a fairly new sport and the gun had the compensator, trigger job and all the farkles the cool kids decked their guns out with. In a moment of lunacy, the kid took off all the removable accessories and traded it for something flashier. My wonderful wife loaned me some money and I went in to debt to buy that gun - and it was the best $400.00 bucks I ever spent on ANY gun since.

You've heard the whoppers old farts tell about their guns but I will chit you not: that used gun was blessed by the gun gods. EVERYONE shot it well. Rookies would pick it up and grin with delight at the tight groups it produced. Semi-skilled pikers like me could cut playing cards in half with it off hand at 25 yards. The experts who owned Colt Gold Cups turned surly and sour when they shot better with my used junker than they did with their hot rods. All good things come to an end - and for me it was a cracked barrel bushing that did it. After thousands upon thousands (upon thousands) of rounds the bushing gave up and apparently the barrel and bushing are the heart and soul of a tack driving .45. I bought a couple bushings out of the used gun parts bin but nothing worked. The gun still shot - but not like she once did. I still have it downstairs...it's pretty much a paper weight now. My new ride is an HK .45 USP Tactical that I bought about 5 years ago. It's a good gun and an honest one...but it is not a GREAT gun like the old Auto Ordnance was.

Who is making a tack driving production 1911 these? I know I can get any number of boutique voodoo guns that are supposedly forged over volcanic fires by Tibetan monks from sacred steel...but I don't want that. I want a 1911 that can cut a playing card in half at 25 yards with adjustable sights when handled by a good shooter. I don't care about exotic materials of construction, or flash and bling to impress the girls and frighten the other gun geeks. I want a gun that can be bought from P&D, or the boys at Prophet River or any other of the top shelf reputable dealers.

Your recommendations (and two cents) are, as always sincerely appreciated:)

Good story it was a pleasure to read. Good luck on your quest I hope you have success.

Graydog
 
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