This is a Outdoor Retailer that sells products to consumers and peddles their "expertise." Whether the "staffer" knows what he/she is talking about is one little problem... the bigger problem is that the editor (who should know "something")... is publishing that crap... just proves that stupidity is alive and well outside of the internet.
It's official , 30-06 too small for white tail!!!Magnum as must!!!
- Thread starter Kelly Timoffee
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It sure is...for my 10/22.
Any in daylight?
Q: "How'd you hit the deer in the hoof?"
A: "When I shined the spotlight on him he covered his eyes 'cause it was so bright"
You can get all sorts of useful info at the gun counter. I remember one guy having an earnest discussion with a salesperson about how he was planning to use his .17 Remington on bear. The sales guy figured that if he "slipped one between the ribs" it would work out just fine. Maybe the .17 Rem guy had a Superman suit on underneath his clothes and had the benefit of xray vision to locate those ribs.
I hunt almost everything exclusively with various magnum cartridges, do I need them? Probably not 99% of the time, but the odd time the flatter trajectory and increased energy has come in handy. It is also a matter of firearm familiarity, my 300 Wby has been with me all over the globe and has taken literally 100s of head of non dangerous game, it is my go to rifle 90% of the time. I shoot it very well and am totally familiar with it's external ballistics, I see no downside to using it on any game from 20 lb duiker to 300 lb deer to 2500 lb eland or bison. I do not say to all you MUST use a 300 Wby to be an effective hunter, it just happens to be my choice and it works as good as any cartridge and better than a lot, especially in open windy country.
The advice given in the mail out is not necessarily wrong, it is one man's opinion and does carry some merit. There is certainly nothing "wrong" with using a flat shooting, hard hitting caliber on deer, the same as there is nothing "wrong" with using a 257 bob, 303 Brit, 308, or 45-70 if that's what turns your crank and works for you. I would far sooner see this advice given out to the inexperienced, than advising the use of a 223 or 243, which in my opinion are totally inadequate and marginal in that order. Before y'all fire up the torches to flame my butt I know many deer have been taken with both these cartridges as well as the hornet and 22 LR, it still don't make it right in my opinion. One must keep in mind there are as many varied hunting scenarios as there are calibers. Some regions are 20-50 mtrs shots being the norm with 100 mtrs being a long shot. I have done a lot of hunting in country where 100-400 mtr shots are normal shooting and 500-700 mtr are not uncommon. You will get both extremes cartridge wise if asking an eastern hardwoods whitetail hunter, whats best and then go ask a Sask open country and cross coulie whitetail hunter, what he thinks is the best whitetail cartridge and rifle set up. The whole point of this dissertation is that the only "WRONG" advice is to advise the use of an inadequte sub caliber, we may not agree with the advice given in the mailout, but it is NOT wrong. JMHO.
If someone asked my advice for the perfect caliber to Sitka blacktail (one of the smallest species of deer in the world) my response would be minimum .375 H&H and a 416 Rigby would be better. Again the advice is locale and specific scenario driven..........Anyone who has seen a coastal brownie will know what I'm talking about !!!
The advice given in the mail out is not necessarily wrong, it is one man's opinion and does carry some merit. There is certainly nothing "wrong" with using a flat shooting, hard hitting caliber on deer, the same as there is nothing "wrong" with using a 257 bob, 303 Brit, 308, or 45-70 if that's what turns your crank and works for you. I would far sooner see this advice given out to the inexperienced, than advising the use of a 223 or 243, which in my opinion are totally inadequate and marginal in that order. Before y'all fire up the torches to flame my butt I know many deer have been taken with both these cartridges as well as the hornet and 22 LR, it still don't make it right in my opinion. One must keep in mind there are as many varied hunting scenarios as there are calibers. Some regions are 20-50 mtrs shots being the norm with 100 mtrs being a long shot. I have done a lot of hunting in country where 100-400 mtr shots are normal shooting and 500-700 mtr are not uncommon. You will get both extremes cartridge wise if asking an eastern hardwoods whitetail hunter, whats best and then go ask a Sask open country and cross coulie whitetail hunter, what he thinks is the best whitetail cartridge and rifle set up. The whole point of this dissertation is that the only "WRONG" advice is to advise the use of an inadequte sub caliber, we may not agree with the advice given in the mailout, but it is NOT wrong. JMHO.
If someone asked my advice for the perfect caliber to Sitka blacktail (one of the smallest species of deer in the world) my response would be minimum .375 H&H and a 416 Rigby would be better. Again the advice is locale and specific scenario driven..........Anyone who has seen a coastal brownie will know what I'm talking about !!!
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