Interesting point ... yes - and that was done at the VERY first service I had on my then brand new 4Runner at the dealership who told me I HAD to install nipples (I did so but asked why, if it was so important, didnt they come factory installed?) .. AND all the joints (plus cardan) were then routinely greased with synthetic (at least every 3 months) .. AND vehicle never forded. I was PRETTY damn surprised when I was called by the dealer, that I traded it to, who was pretty curt about the ball joints they said they had to replace at 114k km... WTF
I've been ofered this truck for $3000
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Interesting point ... yes - and that was done at the VERY first service I had on my then brand new 4Runner at the dealership who told me I HAD to install nipples (I did so but asked why, if it was so important, didnt they come factory installed?) .. AND all the joints (plus cardan) were then routinely greased with synthetic (at least every 3 months) .. AND vehicle never forded. I was PRETTY damn surprised when I was called by the dealer, that I traded it to, who was pretty curt about the ball joints they said they had to replace at 114k km... WTF
Sounds like BS to me: office politics, mechanic keeping himself busy, nutbar dealer trying to make you feel indebted...that or your mechanic never bothered to grease them and just charged you for doing so!
that's my take.
that would be the dealership,
rocklobster
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Which is another reason why I recommend the 3rd gen 4runner, you can still find really nice examples from soccer moms in the burbs that have not been 'out for a rip'
This is a 2nd gen. If it is a 22re than it will be a good motor. Dont bother getting a truck with the 3.0 (3vze) or 3 slow as they are called. Toyota took a camry v6 and put it into a truck, on top of that it was notorious for head gasket issues.
The 3.4 is much much better of an engine, more low end torque, more power, about the same mileage.
The only weakness of the 22RE motor is the single chain timing chain which stretches after 160K km and can then wear through the plastic chain guides and eventually cut through the block.
I replaced the timing chain on my 1992 at 150k Km with a nice DOA chain kit with metal guides. When my mechanic did the job I told him to do the water pump while he was in there. I get the truck back and he didn't replace the pump. I asked him why and he said it was perfectly fine and didn't want to waste my money.
I loved that guy!
I replaced the timing chain on my 1992 at 150k Km with a nice DOA chain kit with metal guides. When my mechanic did the job I told him to do the water pump while he was in there. I get the truck back and he didn't replace the pump. I asked him why and he said it was perfectly fine and didn't want to waste my money.
I loved that guy!
This section on the tail gate is bang on, and boy did it bring back old memories. My wife had a 94 Runner and we went through this whole process. Ours had a manual/electric rear window when it stopped working and they wanted a 1000.00 at the time I said "No". But then we discovered when a tail light burned out that the only way to replace the .39 cent bulb was to lower the tailgate so the tail light lens cover could be removed. But we couldn't lower the window so we could not lower the tail gate so we could not replace the bulb. So $1200. bucks later we had a whole new tail gate mechanism, and a new tail light bulb. This little issue is not cheap fix so watch for it. Also check the brake lines for rust. The only vehicle I ever owned where I had to replace ALL the brake lines as they were rusted so bad. Like has be said in this thread numerous times, good vehicles except for the rusting issues. It seems in those years on a Toyota if it could possible rust it would and badly.
And by the way I am with crazy_davey since your not buying the truck send me the add also. My wife is looking for a good used 4x4 pickup for winter use, for 3K we will fly out and pick it up.
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Not this lad!!! I am sure rubber/fabric belts came about as a solution to another problem (cost?, noise? reduced wear on other parts? acute angles? - whatever) but they are an expensive annoyance! And very few manufacturers have accommodated the servicing of a belt to make it a reasonably straightforward process.There are a few manufacturers engines that have gone "back" to chains ... and they are worth seeking out. In the interim I think Gates are probably the most reliable belts -- but would be happy to hear of others.
But you have to go back quite a long way to get those, or do an "industrial" engine swap.
TacticalTeacher
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That's all I see here in Georgian Bay , all the soccer moms with their babies Yotas... A great place to pick up a used 4Runner or Tacoma!
Cheers,
Barney
The 22re is a clearance head design...if the belt breaks, it doesn't crash the valves into the pistons. I had a 22re in a 1990 MR2, and never changed the belt. Totalled off by a parts delivery chick that cut me off. Had 178K at the time.
"Some" silicons sealants release acetic acid when curing .. can/will cause rust (http://yarchive.net/chem/silicones.html)
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Sorry to hear that BUM. If it was a 22RE I bet it had over 165K km on it when the chain failed.
BigUglyMan
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Nope, not even close. If memory serves it wasn't even at 100K.
your MR2 was notionally a "2.2 L" engine - actually 2164cc and was (apparently) called a 5S-FE series engine. The 4Runner engine discussed was notionally a "2.4 L" engine - actually 2366cc and was called the 22R-E series engine.. different engines and "different strokes for different folks" what is "odd" is that the truck engine (the 22 R-E) actually had a shorter stroke than the sports car engine in this case. Incidentally the 22R-E engine was apparently used in the Celica ... I recall an AWD turbo'd Celica that appeared pretty impressive although it was a 2.0l engine iirc
