John Woo'ing

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By "John Woo'ing" I'm referring to shooting a pistol in each hand, movie-style.

Having never seen it done, and never having done it myself, I decided to try it the other day. I was curious to see what sort of value it had as a legitimate firearms use.

I used a pair of Chinese made M54's in 9mm. Holding a pistol up in each hand, I quickly realized the futility of trying to even remotely maintain an accurate sight picture on either. The best that could be accomplished was holding them parallel to each other- thumbs touching - and aiming at the target with the dominant hand pistol. Both guns jammed with FTE's within 3 rounds. Two rounds struck the target cleanly in the COM, the third was over the right shoulder in the white. My dominant hand pistol had failed on the 2nd round, and the other on the first.

Important to note that both of these pistols, while not being particularly accurate, are pretty reliable in 9mm. I concluded that by holding my hands so close together it was a "weak wristed" grip that let the pistol torque enough to not cycle properly.

That being the case, for the second test, I straight armed both pistols parallel to one another and shot by aiming with the right pistol.

All the shots from the right hand pistol went roughly into the POA, the ones from the left poofed on the backstop without hitting the target.

Finally, I took one pistol and shot eight rounds into the head of the target at the same range in as many seconds.

Conclusion?

"John Woo'ing" or double gunning is about as useful as farting in a strong wind. Few people will notice the effects, and whatever you accomplish will be short lived.
 
I have done the "Last Man Standing" routine with 2 Colt 1911's in 45 ACP. I gave it an honest go, but as stated above, shot everything but the target. I was in an indoor range and most of my dominant (R) hand went somewhere close to the target but didn't hit it. The most damage was done with my weak (L) hand where the rounds went all over the place, like into the sound proofing on the walls up high near the cieling, into one double bulb florescent light unit, etc. :shock:

Lot's of fun, lots of noise, lots of brass flying everywhere, but in-effective for kill potential. :twisted:

That being said, I wonder if one were to practice weak handed shooting, and then give her a go, would the results be different?

CS45 8)
 
Tons of fun, lots of looks, hard as hell to control.

I remember doing it with a pair of CZ-75's back when mags held the propper amount of rounds. 8)
 
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Plus, unless you're dumping your guns when they are empty (matrix style), it's quite a challenge to reload 2 handguns simultaneously (even single-stack 1911s). IMO, most people with enough gun experience can shoot 4 magazines worth of ammunition faster with a single pistol (3 reloads) than with a pair of pistols (a single "double" reload), on top of getting much higher hit count.

Myth busted

But I can't say that is wasn't fun trying...
 
Maybe you guys just weren't doing it right.

When I tried two guns fired at the same target, I got perfect doubles every single time. :D

I'm kidding. I've never tried it, but I just couldn't resist...
 
I tried it a while ago with to beretta`s ( a 92 and a 92D, man it felt wierd) bullets all over the target, most on paper though even if I was shooting at 10m.

I wonder how good I could get with practice...only one way to find out :mrgreen:
 
PoFF said:
it's quite a challenge to reload 2 handguns simultaneously ...

Who needs to reload in the movies.

It takes a bit of practise to do the dive forward roll coming up on target with both barrels ablazing but really shouldn't it be a requirement of any true pistol combat course?
 
bisonhd said:
PoFF said:
it's quite a challenge to reload 2 handguns simultaneously ...

Who needs to reload in the movies.

It takes a bit of practise to do the dive forward roll coming up on target with both barrels ablazing but really shouldn't it be a requirement of any true pistol combat course?

Absoluty!!
 
Hey ,I saw this in a movie,think it was "WAY OF THE GUN" the double reload after you dump the mags from both guns you tuck the lift one under the opposite arm,reload the one still in your hand [right hand] then take the one from the under the right arm and put the one in the right hand under the lift arm, reload that one.and its bang your off to the races.

It can probably be done faster and easer than I can explain. :wink:
 
used a pair of Chinese made M54's in 9mm. Holding a pistol up in each hand, I quickly realized the futility of trying to even remotely maintain an accurate sight picture on either. The best that could be accomplished was holding them parallel to each other- thumbs touching - and aiming at the target with the dominant hand pistol. Both guns jammed with FTE's within 3 rounds
I think that is why Chow Yan Fat uses Berettas most of the time :mrgreen:

what? he goes :p
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Shooting the same target with two guns is pretty pointless in a combat situation. Unlike video game villains, real life humans normally go down after a single hit. Now if you could manage to shoot at two different targets at the same time...
 
IM_Lugger said:
used a pair of Chinese made M54's in 9mm. Holding a pistol up in each hand, I quickly realized the futility of trying to even remotely maintain an accurate sight picture on either. The best that could be accomplished was holding them parallel to each other- thumbs touching - and aiming at the target with the dominant hand pistol. Both guns jammed with FTE's within 3 rounds
I think that is why Chow Yan Fat uses Berettas most of the time :mrgreen:

what? he goes :p
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I tried double gunning (Woo'ing :roll: ) while playing "House of the Dead" video game. I learned enough from that experience that I should NOT try this in real life :lol: .

(E) 8)
 
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