JR carbine owner, would you agree with what said in this vid?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFugeV5pnfo

it's a long in-depth review, the guy seems to know what he is taking about.

I was going to order one until i saw this video.

two things that guy mentioned, and I am concerned with:

1. metal screw on alu receiver, will it last? (someone reported screw got loose from firing in comment.)

2. no strike or light strike when rapid fire due to design flaw.( hammer follows the bolt instead of striking.)

I don't know much about guns but what's said in video make sense.

what do you jr carbine owners think?
 
well the grip screw on a AR and all the pins metal and its never caused issues
 
I haven't had any problems, just don't over tighten your screws, use blue loctite if you want them secure. Havent had any light strikes or misfires yet. He keeps talking about how theres no sear, its the same as an AR-15 trigger, you think as "a manufacturer of firearms" he would know that?
 
All of these issues have been, or are in the process of being resolved with new versions or free upgrade kits. I have never had an issue with mine, despite putting everything and anything called 9mm ammo down the pipe.

Once again, it is best to OWN one and see for yourself, rather than relying on someone else's perceived perception of their own individual issues or experiences.
 
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Zerex said:
I don't agree with "its a 550 dollar carbine"......he obviously hasn't seen Canadian prices:stirthepot2:
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I Own a JR and thanks to that review I will be luck to get 550 for it now. LOL

The good folks at Thureon must be loving that vid.

I can not wait to see the mods he comes up with .
 
Oh man that is an interesting video. It makes me want to look at my Thureon and see if it has any of those flaws. I think the lower is similar and doesn't have a long sear.. but I'm not really sure as I don't know a bunch about these things and am not sure.

Hopefully the manufacturer will address or rebut some of those claims.
 
wow, 5 million sperm, and hes the one who made it first? The first thing he does with a new firearm is cycle live rounds, then shoots it?...and hes a 'smith? First thing I do is tear down clean and inspect. Sure, its new but its made by man, and man is flawed. So, the screws? Well, a lill dab of blue locktite and torque them in. Now, hes kinda got a point with the charging handle screw... I noticed it didnt thread into the bolt veary far. SO I ditched the lock washer, used blue locktite and torqued it. The problems with the trigger? Well, its all AR 15, so, if it works for them then it must be ok. The rapid fire issue was delt with by JR already, I tried to get mine to screw up and it wouldnt.
The fireing pin being too short? Well, my rem 870 uses the same theroy and it works fine. The live round jaming thing? Hes right, I noticed the same thing. I also noticed that not all of my 9mm ammo was exactly the same length. The lighter +P loads were shorter, and did not jam up... and on the topic of jaming, arnt you supposed to pull the mag and see WHY it failed to fire, or eject? Seams like a better idea, rather then just raming another round in and hoping for the best.
now,m I DID have an issue with mine when I first got it. It had all the updates, except one. Some how the old style buffer sneaked its way into the gun during assembly. A quick call to JRC, explained what was happening and they knew why right away. Got the new buffer 5 days later, all has been well since. Its had 600 rounds through it now, without cleaning anything other then the bore. These things got a bad rap at the start due to a lack of testing, but they are good to go now. buy one ';)
 
I have a later model JR carbine , and I have had the hex head bolt on my charging handle come loose at the range, but I keep my hex heads with me and simply tightened it back up.
Check out the rest of JPTHEMAN1 channel on youtube he has a few more later vid on the subject.
The JR carbine is what it is. There's alway room for improvement.
JPTHEMAN1 makes some valid points.

The JR is still a fun little plinker in my opinion. BUT if I had seen the vid before I put my money down I may not have bought one.
 
A small firearm manufacturer reviewing another small firearm manufacturer's product... take that for what it's worth.

Very professional guy.. especially the belch while talking at 12:24. f:P:

He lists firearms manufacturing on his website but has nothing there to offer..... it's easy to criticize someone else's product and not offer a better product. :rolleyes:


That being said... I had a few issues with my .40S&W JR that I attributed to break-in and too much lube. I lube it a lot less (next to nothing really) and have several hundred rounds thru it now. All good & no more issues.

The only thing he mentions worth taking note of is that yes some screws / bolts will work loose.. and little blue loctite fixes that easy enough. The minor setbacks from the first Gen I and earlier Gen II's should not condemn this little carbine. It is a rifle being designed and produced by a small business not some multi-million dollar manufacturer with oodles of R&D guru's and labs. Therefore some hiccups are to be expected.

It is great to shoot, suprisingly accurate, well priced and non-restricted. Even if I saw this video I would still have bought it. Look back at all the Norinco M305 hate when they first came out...... another prime example of this kind of thing.

If you want it get. You won't be sorry.
 
That video doesn't apply to mine. Mine's a carbyne, not a carbean like his. Must be a different model.
Oh, and it's killing me. Went to pick mine up today, walked home empty handed. Stoopid CFO has their panties in a knot over the magazine. Tomorrow it is. Poor.
 
Boomer686 said:
A small firearm manufacturer reviewing another small firearm manufacturer's product... take that for what it's worth.

Very professional guy.. especially the belch while talking at 12:24. f:P:

He lists firearms manufacturing on his website but has nothing there to offer..... it's easy to criticize someone else's product and not offer a better product. :rolleyes:


I would not be surprised to see a bunch of after market fixes for sale buy the maker of the video. I watched a couple more of his productions and I am certain that it is the direction he is heading.
I tried to post a link to some of his other vids but failed miserably .

Maybe one of the guys that is more familiar with posting could post them for me.
I think he means well , but I am sure he is all about marketing his own solutions.
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I don't know alot about smithing... but he makes a very good point about the charging handle being used to keep the bolt in alignment. That seems like it will have longevity problems for sure.

The other stuff, meh.. Maybe a problem, maybe not.
 
One thing I was wondering about regarding the charging handle screw. What do you guys think about installing a longer one with a knurled thumb screw head so it can be taken down without tools, and tightened on the fly by hand? It'll stick out a bit farther, but that wouldn't change my life any.

Oh, and yeah...
"Let me tell you all about the things wrong with this, and how I can fix them for you."
Plenty of solutions to dubious problems. If it was such junk, why would he bother with it? Follow the money...
 
|I thought about the longer screw, but my idea was so there would be more to thread into the bold, giving a more secure mount. my first idea was to ditch the lock washer and use a lill locktite. nothings come loose ever. I can see some signs of contact on the bolt handle..but, its stainless steel. the reciever is aluminium... I would assume it would wear befor the bolt handly. really tho, I dont thing there is THAT much rotational force in there. I also has some jaming issues the first time out due to over lubing. My idea was to add a drop of oil and keep runing it, the jaming got worse. I run it damn near dry now, with no problems. I just ordered some of that slip 2000 EWL to try out, sounds like good stuff. The wifes sub2000 also had a jaming isue related to lubrication so Im thinking it will help both units run better.
 
I have to agree with you Matt308.. He had to have handled it before buying it. The screws would have been obvious. If it looked like a piece of sh!t, why the hell did he buy it?

Pretty sure he had a plan all along to charge for "Upgrades". Hey buy a $500 carbean then send it to me and for another $500 I will make it run like a $4000 carbean.
 
Matt308 said:
|I thought about the longer screw, but my idea was so there would be more to thread into the bold, giving a more secure mount. my first idea was to ditch the lock washer and use a lill locktite.
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I've spend a little time looking at the handle, and I think the best improvement would be to machine the handle as one piece steel with a simple spring loaded pin that pops into a series of dimples on the bolt as it's screwed-in by hand. A "ratchet" type design used in many configurations that works quite well.
 
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