Claybster said:...However if the Norinco cheerleaders were offended then mission accomplished...We are also in complete agreement on that as well and it pretty much sums up how I regard the "Outlaw."farshot said:More of a toy to make noise and scatter shot somewhere downrange.

Just wondering for the people who ordered and already received them--what date did you order yours? I was a bit late on the draw and didn't order one until Jan 5. I'm still queued, and just wondering how long I might have to wait.
i went in Dec 31. Mark said he hoped to get mine out next week. they are quite busy i imagine bunch of orders, pistols & shotguns, t97s coming, etc. i don't mind waiting - if it were like a business or some government agencies that had enough staff to get everything out instantly when it came in you'd probably have to pay $100 more to cover the extra overhead
We are in complete agreement. You have the right perspective and understand that it is a cheap piece of junk. If someone is getting one for s**ts and giggles then fill yer boots, you'll have no argument from me.I don't understand why Claybuster and Win/64 seem to take the mere existence of this gun as a personal insult. Sure it's basically a cheap piece of junk, but I'm getting one for ****s and giggles when my brother comes to visit--just for fun while they're still legal. Lighten up.![]()
But the girlish gushing and gooing over these cheap pieces of s**t as if they are the second coming of Joseph Manton deserves a response.![]()
It is not that I simply don't like the guns or have acquired my opinion based on the assorted Internet blathering.They are not cheap guns. They are solid shotguns. Well made for the price they ask for.
Those shotguns answered calls from Canadian shooters. Now we don't have to follow foreign gun laws. We can shoot short barrel shotguns because it's OK here.
Don't call another gun POS simply because you don't like it. We all have preference. A little respect can add lots of fun to discussion.
Cheers,
Michael
If your going to buy a Ljutic. Buy it used. You will save yourself a lot of money. Their resale value is very poor. Great guns though.Anyone considering a better bead or front site?
Not really, unless you're bored... I don't know what makes you think they are s**t, they work, at least mine does, and frankly I do find some of the 'hysteria' about them from some negative quarters mildly bemusing due to the knee-jerk reaction to these guns. I have seen alot of cheap Spanish SXSs that were far worse, not to mention some Brazilian crap. I suppose we could all pool our funds and buy Ljutics or something, I certainly don't want any Brownings, so what else would the negative old gramps types suggest for a 'good time gun'? Maybe an old single shot Cooey? For 300$s with a 12in barrel these are the second coming, the first coming was the 12inch Grizzlies, the old men should put down thier geritol and 8-Tracks, and try having some fun![]()
You answered your own question. For a good time gun get the Grizzly. Norinco has managed to slap together a reasonable facsimile of the Remington 870. They work although not my first choice for serious business without the the flex tab but they are decent enough guns. The sxs hammer gun is a POS.I certainly don't want any Brownings, so what else would the negative old gramps types suggest for a 'good time gun'? Maybe an old single shot Cooey? For 300$s with a 12in barrel these are the second coming, the first coming was the 12inch Grizzlies, the old men should put down thier geritol and 8-Tracks, and try having some fun![]()
If your going to buy a Ljutic. Buy it used. You will save yourself a lot of money. Their resale value is very poor. Great guns though.![]()
No dear boy what means a lot to experienced clay shooters is breaking targets. Nothing else matters. You need to get out more.Fancy wood, for example, means a lot to experienced clay shooters. However, not every one want or willing ot pay 3k for that.
Chinese guns have been famous(or infamous) for they finishing - especially inside. However, there are many GNZs (including me) don't really worry about the internal finishing.
my dad owned one and said they were junk.
Ya but I'll bet your Dad doesn't own an "Outlaw".
I have a great interest in the Outlaw. My interest is in letting potential purchasers know what they are getting. Read back through all the threads here and what I've attempted to do is explain why these guns are junk (an opinion shared by others) and while they might have an amusement factor are not particularly well made guns.Let's give this a try: if you have absolutely no interest in anything to do with the Outlaw shotgun and your only "contribution" to the thread is to insult the posters that have bought them, find another thread to troll.




























