Kalashnikov admits to German help on the AK

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Mihail Kalasnikov is admitting he was "helped" by the German inventor and arms maker Hugo Schmeisser to create the AK-47 assault rifle

-- The German inventor developed the first assault weapon Sturmgewehr 44 during WWII. After the end of the war Schmeisser was displaced and forced to work in the Soviet Union



Sturmgewehr 44 and AK-47


February 17 16:09

Famous Soviet arms builder Mihail Kalasnikov recently acknowledged he didn't worked alone at the design and development of the AK-47 assault rifle, but he benefited from the help of Hugo Schmeisser, the most prolific small arms inventor of the Third Reich. Kalashnikov and Schmeisser meet each other at the small arms factory of Izhevsk, writes Life.ru as quoted by Agerpress, the Romanian national news agency.

According to the Russian historian Aleksei Korobeinikov, Schmeisser arrived in Ijhevsk immediately after the war. The city of Suhl, Schmeisser's hometown in defeated Germany, was situated in the Soviet occupation zone. Schmeisser and another couple of dozens German small arms specialists received from the Soviet occupiers an offer they "couldn't refuse": to work at a Soviet small arms factory in the Urals. How the Soviets were making these types of "generous offers" after the war isn't a secret for anyone anymore. So as a result of the Soviet "proposal" a train with German specialists arrived at Izhevs on October 24th 1946. Together with Schmeisser and his colleagues, the train carried all the blue prints and plans the Soviets could grab from their occupation zone. Truth be told, the Western Allies did exactly the same thing.



Mihail Kalasnikov and Hugo Schmeisser



The Russian experts are claiming that it is pretty hard to determine Hugo Schmeisser contribution to the design and development of the AK-47 assault rifle because all official documents referring to this episode are still classified (gee, I wonder why?) and Schmeisser didn't left behind any kind of memoirs or letters about his life in the Soviet Union.

Referring to this period, Schmeisser evasively said "I gave the Russians some advice".
The German arms maker left behind in Izhevsk only a couple of letters and photographs. The house in which Schmeisser and his colleagues used to live is now in ruins. Aleksandr Ermakov, an employee of the Kalashnikov Museum declares: "only a few letters are in our possession in which Schmeisser is petitioning the Soviet Defense Minister for improving the substandard living conditions, complains about the food and asks for an increase in salary and a travel permit to visit his homeland.

Many historians are claiming Michail Kalashnikov has "stolen" the AK-47 design from the Germans. In opposition, the Russians claim that Schmeisser only role was to implement the new manufacturing technologies for mass producing the new assault rifle.
The assault rifle designed by Hugo Schmeisser during WWII (STG 44 - Sturmgewehr 44, also known as MP 43 and MP 44) looks very similar with the AK-47, designed by Kalasnikov. But the Russians are claiming that the similarities are stopping once you get to look inside the rifle. Kalashnikov is claiming he started work on his design in 1943 and by 1946 his rifle was already in the testing phase. However, denying the German contribution to the mass production of the AK-47 rifle would be a another Soviet lie historians say; it is undeniable that at Ijhevsk, Schmeisser took care of the AK-47 stamped receiver manufacturing process. Moreover, the merit for the mass production of the stamped receiver, the ammunition magazine and other important parts of the rifle are undeniably the product of Schmeisser's efforts.
 
The book Sturmgewehr: From Firepower to Striking Power has a picture of Schmeisser taken in Ishevsk in around 1950 or so. While I suppose it is interesting to hear a bit of a confession from the Russians, I don't think anybody is surprised. What assault rifle designer wouldn't solicite a bit of advice from the inventor of the up-to-then greatest assault rifle, when his office is right down the hall?
 
I'm not surprised at all.

It has long been rumoured that Kalashnikov utilized captured German weapons designers for his benefit. He has just been denying it up until now.

What is surprising is that the Allies had Schmeisser and questioned him at the end of the war, and then withdrew and let the Soviets scoop him up.

Who knows how the 1950's NATO standard rifle would have looked, if Schmeisser had been working for us.
 
Is there any hard proof in terms of design, or just assertions?

He "helped"...so did several hundred thousand other Germans. They helped rebuild some of what they had destroyed.

Does the AK dent if you lean it against a wall and it falls over?

I think if Schmeisser had done something significant he would have said so, or at least left records if he didn't want to say anything while alive

On the other hand, he might not have been too proud of helping the Soviets build a weapon that would go on to kill innumerable people on 'our side' so as to save his own neck.
 
There are only so many ways of making the parts function to make a firearm. The bolt on an AK rotates (like the M1 Carbine). The operating rod is attached to the carrier (like the MP66). The trigger and hammer are similar to the M1 Garand. The magazine ... etc. The genius of course is which of the best features are chosen.
 
Not surprised at all. Most good things that came/come from the former Soviet Union trace their origins to German originals....that goes for my Ural motorcycle as well.
 
Nope in the case of the T-34 it was the opposite. The Russians picked up on Christie's suspension and created the T-34. The Germans were impressed by it hence made the Panther.

COOL my AK is German:p:D
 
Is there any hard proof in terms of design, or just assertions?

It was discussed several times... In two words, there is not too much similarity in StG44, but there are some with Walther's MKb 42(W), like rotating bolt. Schmeisser was very familiar with Walther's design and could give couple of advices to Russians. It is interesting to see АК-46 It is much more like StG44.
 
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Not a huge "shocker". Even in Kalashnikov's biography he states that he went over every Soviet and foreign weapon he could get his hands on (quite a few) for ideas and inspiration on constructing what would become the AK. He even met with and got some ideas from his competitors during the competition his rifle was entered in.
It seems natural that if he also had access to the designers themselves that he would make us of them.
 
Well, the "Western allies" were interested in other german marvels, like rocket technology, jet engines and nukes.
However, with all the 'help' they could get from Wehrner von Brown, there were the soviets that had the first functional rocket engine and first spacecraft in orbit.
I'm really amazed how the 'west' looks at the russians much like the germans did not very long ago, e.g. a bunch of primitive mongolian type retards that 'have stolen' german technology and brains whereas the 'west' had the germans volunteerly hand over their plans and blueprints and took a government sponsored vacation in the sunny Florida.

I'm not surprised at all.

It has long been rumoured that Kalashnikov utilized captured German weapons designers for his benefit. He has just been denying it up until now.

What is surprising is that the Allies had Schmeisser and questioned him at the end of the war, and then withdrew and let the Soviets scoop him up.

Who knows how the 1950's NATO standard rifle would have looked, if Schmeisser had been working for us.
 
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