Kapowwwwwww!!!!!!!!
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The only thing I can add to this thread is double and/or triple ensure you are using the correct ammo for the gun (ie. head stamp)
I cranked a .9mm rd out of my G22 by accident (well more of being careless) The round made it into my ammo case and it loaded and discharged!
At first I thought a squib but after realized my total act of stupidity.
me and the gun survived but I am still dissapointed in myself as that is the dumbest firearms related thing i have ever done.
I cranked a .9mm rd out of my G22 by accident (well more of being careless) The round made it into my ammo case and it loaded and discharged!
At first I thought a squib but after realized my total act of stupidity.
me and the gun survived but I am still dissapointed in myself as that is the dumbest firearms related thing i have ever done.
Glock's
I have shot Glock's, Beretta's, and SIG's to failure. The most recent was my G22 at 33,000 rounds, and the slide broke, not the "plastic" frame, for you traditionalist wankers (it still worked too!). My Beretta 96 broke (locking block, surprise) at 12,000, and the SIG had the rails come off and frame crack at an unknown round count (lot's and lot's of 9mm). The difference? The Glock still worked. I have seen several break in service, and I have seen close to a half million rounds minimum of factory.40 down range in the past ten years. The Beretta's failed completely, the Glock's break (pin's, locking block's, slide rails, slide stop levers) but they still work, which is what I would put my money on. Guns are mechanical and they break, ammo is manufactured and it fails sometimes. There is a reason Glock own's 70% of the LE market in North America (G22, actually), it is because they work when they need to.
I have shot Glock's, Beretta's, and SIG's to failure. The most recent was my G22 at 33,000 rounds, and the slide broke, not the "plastic" frame, for you traditionalist wankers (it still worked too!). My Beretta 96 broke (locking block, surprise) at 12,000, and the SIG had the rails come off and frame crack at an unknown round count (lot's and lot's of 9mm). The difference? The Glock still worked. I have seen several break in service, and I have seen close to a half million rounds minimum of factory.40 down range in the past ten years. The Beretta's failed completely, the Glock's break (pin's, locking block's, slide rails, slide stop levers) but they still work, which is what I would put my money on. Guns are mechanical and they break, ammo is manufactured and it fails sometimes. There is a reason Glock own's 70% of the LE market in North America (G22, actually), it is because they work when they need to.
IM_Lugger said:Piperdown, Beretta's locking block is a LOT cheaper and easier to replace than a slide or frame....
Weeell, yes and no. Glock has this strange concept called "customer service", something Beretta has maybe heard about, but has yet to grasp in it's totality. Locking blocks cost money, Glock just fixes their guns when I send them back
. More importantly, when a locking block breaks in a Beretta, it becomes an expensive paper weight. The Glock worked fine with a broken slide, grouped a bit more to the left than I would have liked, but it went bang every time.
The following quotes were taken off website at bottom...tonnes of info on this hotly contested topic...
Out-of-Battery Datum
I recently bought a Bar*Sto aftermarket barrel for a Glock 20 and made the following measurements:
My stock Glock 20 barrel leaves 0.306" of the case unsupported over the feed ramp.
My BarSto Glock 20 barrel leaves 0.224" of the case unsupported over the feed ramp.
The case web is 0.18"-to-0.20" thick depending on how you measure it. That leaves at least 0.10" unsupported thin case wall in the stock barrel and 0.024" in the BarSto.
- From Clark Magnuson
Out-of-Battery Quote
"The problem is with the pistol. The design of the disconnector on the Glocks allow them to fire with the slide slightly out of battery -- this is a more significant problem with higher pressure cartridges. Other .40 S&W pistols, especially ones made of steel or designed from the ground up as .40s rather than merely being modified 9 mms, do not suffer from this same problem. ... FWIW, if Glock modified the disconnector the out of battery failures could be significantly reduced."
- From Gary K. Roberts
Factory Ammo kB!s
"In various handgun courses over the years I have personally witnessed five (5!) kB!s, all with factory-new .40 S&W ammo. Yes, two were with the earlier Federal 165-grain Hydra-Shok, but I've also seen it happen with 180-grain Winchester Ranger and 155-grain Speer Gold Dot HPs."
- Ken Hackathorn, World
Class Firearms Instructor
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html
Out-of-Battery Datum
I recently bought a Bar*Sto aftermarket barrel for a Glock 20 and made the following measurements:
My stock Glock 20 barrel leaves 0.306" of the case unsupported over the feed ramp.
My BarSto Glock 20 barrel leaves 0.224" of the case unsupported over the feed ramp.
The case web is 0.18"-to-0.20" thick depending on how you measure it. That leaves at least 0.10" unsupported thin case wall in the stock barrel and 0.024" in the BarSto.
- From Clark Magnuson
Out-of-Battery Quote
"The problem is with the pistol. The design of the disconnector on the Glocks allow them to fire with the slide slightly out of battery -- this is a more significant problem with higher pressure cartridges. Other .40 S&W pistols, especially ones made of steel or designed from the ground up as .40s rather than merely being modified 9 mms, do not suffer from this same problem. ... FWIW, if Glock modified the disconnector the out of battery failures could be significantly reduced."
- From Gary K. Roberts
Factory Ammo kB!s
"In various handgun courses over the years I have personally witnessed five (5!) kB!s, all with factory-new .40 S&W ammo. Yes, two were with the earlier Federal 165-grain Hydra-Shok, but I've also seen it happen with 180-grain Winchester Ranger and 155-grain Speer Gold Dot HPs."
- Ken Hackathorn, World
Class Firearms Instructor
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html
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IM_Lugger said:
Yes, thicker webs on them....
