Keeping Loaded Mag at Home?

"...no storage rules for ammunition..." Yep. Locked up.
"...not sure if storing a full mag would do anything..." Nope. Springs do not lose temper from being compressed. Long term, repeated, use can work harden the bends of a flat spring though.
"...instead of something to defend yourself?..." Pretty much. Metal clubs like morning stars(as are blow guns, shuriken and nunchuks) are prohibited too. Been that way since 1978. Never have been able to figure that one out. Best guess is too many Medieval, ninja, pygmies holding up variety stores.
Being tried by 12 is extremely expensive.
"...motor getting good gas mileage or your engine..." Bad analogy. Clips are not magazines. Clips fill magazines.
 
motors dont get gas mileage they consume electricity, see?basicaly i see people get lost on semantics all the time in this forum. its a waste of time and space. what was an honest question has become a lecture on terminology.
sunray said:
"...no storage rules for ammunition..." Yep. Locked up.
"...not sure if storing a full mag would do anything..." Nope. Springs do not lose temper from being compressed. Long term, repeated, use can work harden the bends of a flat spring though.
"...instead of something to defend yourself?..." Pretty much. Metal clubs like morning stars(as are blow guns, shuriken and nunchuks) are prohibited too. Been that way since 1978. Never have been able to figure that one out. Best guess is too many Medieval, ninja, pygmies holding up variety stores.
Being tried by 12 is extremely expensive.
"...motor getting good gas mileage or your engine..." Bad analogy. Clips are not magazines. Clips fill magazines.
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What ever did you do before for personal safety? You are less likely to go to prison if you just beat the intruder with a bat! just make sure you have a ball and glove to with it.
 
I just took the CFSC and challanged the restricted like, 5 days ago, I asked my instructor the very same question, it is ILLEGAL to store a loaded magazine with your pistol, or rifle, you can have ammunition in a safe or lock box with your Pistol or Rifle, but to have the cartridges loaded in the magazine makes it a loaded firearm, according to my intructor, and I trust his credentials so, theres my two cents if anyone cares

Oh and it certainly wouldn't hurt the spring!
 
Actually your instructor is smoking crack and should clean his pipe out , A loaded magazine does not constitute a loaded weapon , it is only loaded once it is placed inside the firearm .

This question formulated in another thread where this question was directly asked to the RCMP and they indeed confirmed it is LEGAL to store loaded magazines with your firearm (read , not IN your firearm) inside a locked container specifically built to store firearms and is not easily broken into .

Case point was the jeweler in toronto who shot 3 or 4 people trying to rob him if someone cares to look up the thread in question .
 
Steve Janes said:
I just took the CFSC and challanged the restricted like, 5 days ago, I asked my instructor the very same question, it is ILLEGAL to store a loaded magazine with your pistol, or rifle, you can have ammunition in a safe or lock box with your Pistol or Rifle, but to have the cartridges loaded in the magazine makes it a loaded firearm, according to my intructor, and I trust his credentials so, theres my two cents if anyone cares

Oh and it certainly wouldn't hurt the spring!
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Either the question was formulated to your instructor incorrectly or he misunderstood you (or you are misunderstanding it all...don't worry we've all been there). :D

it is NOT illegal to store a loaded magazine WITH your pistol...if indeed your pistol is STORED. It IS illegal to have said magazine loaded INTO your pistol. ;)

Seems like so much semantics, but then, that's what law is made up of eh. :p Remember what the famous ex-president said: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is means. If is means is, and never has been, that's one thing. If it means, there is none, that was a completely true statement.
 
It seems there are so many different answers on this thread, who knows what to believe. As far as my opinion goes, a loaded mag is not a loaded firearm (the entire statement is ludacris) , but there is the question of easily accesible as well. I was simply going off of what I was told, and no there was no mis-understanding, maybe he WAS wrong (Or smoking Crack, although I doubt it), but I am going to take his word for it until I know otherwise. As much as I would feel safer to have my loaded magazine right beside my pistol, inside a locked gun safe, I was told that it was against the rules. And if your basing your answer on what an RCMP officer siad, then I personnely wouldn't trust that either, there aren't a lot of cops out there who have read every word in the current firearms act, and I doubt any one has, it's freakin' huge, thats one of the huge problems with the firearms act is none of the police even know the rules when it comes down to nitty gritty little details, there is so much mis-understanding from both firearms owners and police, it seems it's a personnel choice and if you get screwed in an inspection or anything else, well then s**t happens I guess
 
DUDE, That is awesome and precisly what I was looking for to totally confirm everything discussed here, thank you very much for looking it up, I looked but couldn't find it, I will now feel comfortable storing my loaded magazine beside my un loaded pistol in a secure locked safe, as it is according to this completely legal, straight for the horses mouth!

Kc.338Lp, Thank-you
 
Steve Janes said:
I just took the CFSC and challanged the restricted like, 5 days ago, I asked my instructor the very same question, it is ILLEGAL to store a loaded magazine with your pistol, or rifle, you can have ammunition in a safe or lock box with your Pistol or Rifle, but to have the cartridges loaded in the magazine makes it a loaded firearm, according to my intructor, and I trust his credentials so, theres my two cents if anyone cares

Oh and it certainly wouldn't hurt the spring!
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I heard the same thing from my instructors. In front of the class they'd teach the FSESO "company line", but when I went out for a smoke during a break one of the instructors gave me a little more info (with a "We're not supposed to tell you that, we're supposed to stick to the script" and a smile). As an OT side note: my instructors were so awesome I'm sending my brother and father - and anybody else I know who wants to get their PAL - to these guys. I won't name them here, cause I don't want them to get in trouble for going "off script" with me.

So - there's the FSESO (or whatever organization certifies instructors in your province/territory) line, and there's the letter of the law. Sometimes they're the same - but sometimes they're different (if only by the slightest degree).

Anyways - the law says that (I'm paraphrasing) if the loaded magazine isn't touching the firearm it's okay.

Loaded magazine in the gun = illegal.
Loaded magazine touching the gun (including being attached to the gun by a length of string or tape) = illegal.
Loaded magazine right next to the gun, but not touching = legal... As long as it's locked up in something designed to store firearms.
 
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