Keeping rounds loaded in a magazine?

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I'd like to store ammunition in one pistol mag for self defense and I have a few questions.

Is it illegal to store loaded magazines?
Can those magazines be stored in the same gun vault as my handguns?
If so is having them in the pistol legal or would they need to be out of the gun?


About storing ammo in the actual mags.
With AR15 mags you can store ammo in them for a long time without the springs getting too weak. If I was storing ammo in my rifle mags for a long time I'd normally ease my springs at least once a week, no less than once a month.

Are pistol mags the same way? I've kept 9mm stored in browning hi-power mags (easing them once a week) but those mags were #### anyways and prone to jamming. And they didn't cost me anything.

I have a .45 Spartan and P99, what are the mags like for those?
(Both have factory mags). If I keep 10 rounds in either of them will that ruin the springs or should they be good as long as I ease/stretch them once a week or something?
 
Store your mags right next to your unlocked handguns in your locking safe. Don't worry about your springs. You'll put more stress on them loading and unloading than you will leaving them alone.
 
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Agreed. I have a little 12x12 safe in my nightstand with my Glock and 2 loaded mags. I called the CFO and confirmed and the guy was in shock that I would want to do this. He kept saying to be safe it is recommended you use a trigger lock. I told him I wanted it without a trigger lock just to be safe, and I would feel safer if I could keep it loaded.
 
B said:
Store your mags right next to your unlocked handguns in your locking safe. Don't worry about your springs. You'll put more stress on them loading and unloading than you will leaving them alone.
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Please, please, please post the myth-busting article we all know and love!...:p
 
Canadian Fire arms says :
Restricted and prohibited firearms
Attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container or room that is hard to break into; or
Lock the firearms in a vault, safe or room that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely.
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so i guess you need a lock on it when it is stored. but the ammo can be kept in the same container, but it cant be in the fire arm.
 
"Lock the firearms in a vault, SAFE or room that was built....

Youre good to store it without a trigger lock, assuming the safe was built for safe firearm storage :)
 
Well seeing this thread is going over the same old material, yet again. I'd love to confirm (yes I read the damn pamphlet from the CFC again but I can't see Ammo under transporting a restricted). I was packing up at the club and an old timer mentioned that loaded mags was a no-no. So if you can kindly indulge this question for the billionth time.

TRANSPORTING a RESTRICTED:

UNLOADED Restricted with trigger lock on.
Magazines loaded but NOT in the firearm.
Trigger locked Restricted and loaded mags INSIDE the same black Pelican case.
Pelican case locked.

Go to go. Yes?

Is the same set-up good to go for STORAGE as well?

Thanks in advanced for answering this question for the billionth time.
 
Thanks gentlemen.

Up until now I had a trigger lock on my pistol/s and ammo stored separately.
I'm going to keep one loaded .45 mag on standby.

B, the Dogma I've been fed tells me I need to ease springs in a loaded mag periodically.

Do you mind setting me up with a link (or whatever) explaining your stance on not easing the springs?
 
Modern day springs do not fatigue if compressed for long periods of time. Where the spring becomes fatigued is when the spring works by compressing and decompressing. If you just load the mag and leave it, it will be good to go... it will not take a set.
 
There was one guy on this forum who posted a long scientific explanation for why keeping magazines stored loaded didn't weaken the springs... it had to do with the tension the metal is designed to handle and return from. Anyways, his point was that it was fine.

My understanding about storage (and transport) was that the firearm has to be trigger locked if in a container with a lock on it, OR it has to be stored in a safe or gun room (room specifically put aside for guns that locks to certain minimum standards) and that ammunition had to be stored seperately. I believe there are laws pertaining to storing firearms but NOT to storing ammo. The bit about ammo storage is within the firearms law that states that the F/A can't be stored in the same case as the ammo. Am I wrong?

That being said, unless you're doing anything criminal, there's no reason anyone would ever wanna take a look at how your storing your F/A (unless you flaunt it and someone rats you out for whatever reason, or you're a collector in which case they can routinely check your storage).
 
CanAm said:
Storage and transport rules:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/media-presse/pdf/safestorage_e.pdf
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Thank you. I had perused this many times and finally figured it out.

For Ammunition:

"Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearm."

For a Restricted firearm:

"Attach a secure locking device (trigger lock) so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container ( the same container in which ammunition can be stored) or room that is hard to break into.."

This page appears to indicate all firearms in storage have to be unloaded.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
 
effects said:
Thank you. I had perused this many times and finally figured it out.

For Ammunition:

"Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearm."

For a Restricted firearm:

"Attach a secure locking device (trigger lock) so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container ( the same container in which ammunition can be stored) or room that is hard to break into.."

This page appears to indicate all firearms in storage have to be unloaded.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
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You can't have a loaded firearm in your house, whether it's stored or not.
 
effects said:
For a Restricted firearm:

"Attach a secure locking device (trigger lock) so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container ( the same container in which ammunition can be stored) or room that is hard to break into.."

This page appears to indicate all firearms in storage have to be unloaded.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
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Regarding the restricted storage it is important to note the OR which immediately follows your quote and refers to a safe etc. The law specifically DOES NOT require a lock on the trigger of a restricted firearm stored in a safe or vault, or room specifically designed for the storage of firearms. Additionally, the law does not define safe or vault. The net result is that if you store your handgun in a safe or vault, it doesn't need a lock and can certainly have a loaded magazine beside it (but not in the mag well).
 
I don't get it. It says "store the ammunition seperately" but then says "It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearm"...

which is it?!?
 
FMP said:
Restricted firearms can be in safe with trigger lock and loaded mags can be beside it ( NOT in the firearm )

yay or nay?
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YES. a mag that is charged with ammo, and not in a firearm, is NOT loaded if is stored with the firearm.
 
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