Kel-tec Rdb/Rfb owners.

If this helps at all, my RDB has been through a Winter Brutality and now just recently a Summer Brutality course, it did not skip a beat. -25 snow and ice covered, too fully submerged and dragged through dirt/water, it is out performing my MCX so far. Get the gas system tuned to your ammo (takes no time at all) and it will run flawlessly.

Little to no recoil, well balanced(at least my setup is) the part I find the most useful is not having a ejection port on the side, so no need to worry dragging it on ether side or shooting while the rifle is flat/low to the ground.

Brandon
 
ILLICI7 said:
If this helps at all, my RDB has been through a Winter Brutality and now just recently a Summer Brutality course, it did not skip a beat. -25 snow and ice covered, too fully submerged and dragged through dirt/water, it is out performing my MCX so far. Get the gas system tuned to your ammo (takes no time at all) and it will run flawlessly.

Little to no recoil, well balanced(at least my setup is) the part I find the most useful is not having a ejection port on the side, so no need to worry dragging it on ether side or shooting while the rifle is flat/low to the ground.

Brandon
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Thats interesting to hear. I saw a video where a guy did a muck drop test with the RDB and as soon as any dirt got into the ejection port, the thing quit working and he was unable to get it working again without a complete strip to get all the dirt out of the action.
 
none in the squad I was with. I think optics/lights/aiming devices were more worry some for most. my 1-6 vortex came out ok and being a bull-pup it was FULLY submerged lol.

Brandon
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Thats interesting to hear. I saw a video where a guy did a muck drop test with the RDB and as soon as any dirt got into the ejection port, the thing quit working and he was unable to get it working again without a complete strip to get all the dirt out of the action.
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Purposely trying to create a stoppage for 'likes & shares' compared too actual real world(competition) use is way different in my opinion.


Brandon
 
There are two things that limit RDB in competition: 1) it's not easy to demonstrate empty chamber (read: you need to train your safety guy where to look and give him a flashlight) and 2) if god forbid you have double feed or something like this - you gotta take down the rifle to clear it.
 
ILLICI7 said:
Purposely trying to create a stoppage for 'likes & shares' compared too actual real world(competition) use is way different in my opinion.


Brandon
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Newsflash, competition, IS NOT "real world." Take a look at the gawdawful conditions in Ukrainian trench warfare, THAT is real world. Throwing an RDB into a muck puddle is way more "real world" than any competition on a range.

Keeping in mind, I actually like my RDB, but it has suffered an annoying and potentially dangerous fault and is currently at a Smith to be fixed. I have suffered double feeds and it is pretty tricky to clear those. This is also under the most sanitary operating conditions. Throw a bit of dirt into the mix and that rifle is doomed. Hence why I went to an X95.
 
Horilka said:
There are two things that limit RDB in competition: 1) it's not easy to demonstrate empty chamber (read: you need to train your safety guy where to look and give him a flashlight) and 2) if god forbid you have double feed or something like this - you gotta take down the rifle to clear it.
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I've been lucky, the safety guys have been good and understand the RDB with its quirks

Brandon
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Newsflash, competition, IS NOT "real world." Take a look at the gawdawful conditions in Ukrainian trench warfare, THAT is real world. Throwing an RDB into a muck puddle is way more "real world" than any competition on a range.

Keeping in mind, I actually like my RDB, but it has suffered an annoying and potentially dangerous fault and is currently at a Smith to be fixed. I have suffered double feeds and it is pretty tricky to clear those. This is also under the most sanitary operating conditions. Throw a bit of dirt into the mix and that rifle is doomed. Hence why I went to an X95.
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Neat,

Brandon
 
I've had an RFB and two different models of the RDB. All three were functionally perfect, never ever experienced a malfunction. I loved the bullpup layout; the only negative IMHO was the same feature that was originally a drawing point for me, i.e. the novel ejection methods. I was initially attracted to the downward/forward ejection systems for their novelty, but after awhile I became uncomfortable with the awkwardness of being able to visually check the chamber area. I suspect that clearing some types of jams would have been a PITA...but I never experienced a FTE or FTF with any of them, so...:)

I'm just a casual shooter, not a steely-eyed urban warrior, so I wasn't concerned about whether or not the guns would withstand being dropped into quicksand or run over by a tank or immersed in blood or never cleaned. They were toys...as they would be for virtually all civilian shooters...and I didn't intentionally abuse them. All were used for at least some hunting, and acquitted themselves very well. In short...they were a lot of fun, and very satisfying to own.

It's true; they had a lot of screws holding them together...I wouldn't grab either one as my SHTF single gun. Remember: toys.

All three of them shot more accurately than any of the several Tavors (all in .223, never shot a .308) that I have had a chance to play with. They cost far less than any Tavor you will find. And their triggers are far, far better than any stock Tavor trigger or M14-style trigger...in fact I can't recall any semi-auto black rifle I have ever owned or shot that had triggers as nice as theirs.

Way less expensive to buy...outstanding triggers...much more accurate...yeah, why would anyone buy one of these things? :)
 
jjohnwm said:
I've had an RFB and two different models of the RDB. All three were functionally perfect, never ever experienced a malfunction. I loved the bullpup layout; the only negative IMHO was the same feature that was originally a drawing point for me, i.e. the novel ejection methods. I was initially attracted to the downward/forward ejection systems for their novelty, but after awhile I became uncomfortable with the awkwardness of being able to visually check the chamber area. I suspect that clearing some types of jams would have been a PITA...but I never experienced a FTE or FTF with any of them, so...
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I freaking LOVED my RFB; my experience was identical to yours - not one malfunction, ever. The inability to easily check the chamber was my only reason for selling.
 
I fully understand that a first owner lifetime warranty does not apply to people that buy used.

The Idea that a guy can't pay for parts and service because he bought a used gun makes zero sense and I have no doubt that policy is not Kel-tec's idea.

The used market is huge and why would a company tell their customers... "hey if you don't like it you can always sell it at a loss to some chump who will be s h i t out of luck with one of your products and zero ability to buy or get parts.

I'm actually surprised that Kel-tec allows their Canadian distributor to take such a me first, attitude. I know Americans get good support even when they are not the first buyer.
 
CobraGT said:
I freaking LOVED my RFB; my experience was identical to yours - not one malfunction, ever. The inability to easily check the chamber was my only reason for selling.
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Kel-tec should consider a polished bit of stainless steel in the magwell where it can relect light and a better view of the chamber.
It would stay clean enough in the mag well and would improve that quirk.
 
CobraGT said:
I freaking LOVED my RFB; my experience was identical to yours - not one malfunction, ever. The inability to easily check the chamber was my only reason for selling.
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Kel-tec should consider a polished bit of stainless steel in the magwell where it can relect light and a better view of the chamber.
It would stay clean enough in the mag well and would improve that quirk.
 
Can-down said:
I fully understand that a first owner lifetime warranty does not apply to people that buy used.

The Idea that a guy can't pay for parts and service because he bought a used gun makes zero sense and I have no doubt that policy is not Kel-tec's idea.

The used market is huge and why would a company tell their customers... "hey if you don't like it you can always sell it at a loss to some chump who will be s h i t out of luck with one of your products and zero ability to buy or get parts.

I'm actually surprised that Kel-tec allows their Canadian distributor to take such a me first, attitude. I know Americans get good support even when they are not the first buyer.
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My RDB has been at a Smith for past 2 months. It has trigger problem, that causes it to double and worse. The distributor wanted nothing to do with it and suggested the Smith, where I took it.

When it comes back repaired, it will be going up for sale.

I kinda like the RDB but apparently they need to be purchased from the dealers lest anything go wrong with them.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
My RDB has been at a Smith for past 2 months. It has trigger problem, that causes it to double and worse. The distributor wanted nothing to do with it and suggested the Smith, where I took it.

When it comes back repaired, it will be going up for sale.

I kinda like the RDB but apparently they need to be purchased from the dealers lest anything go wrong with them.
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Who is the Smith? I assume gunsmiths can get part from North Sylva..... is North Sylva still the importer? I just tried searchng for that answer and they seem to be well hidden online!

In many ways dealing with IRG is the better way to go, better price and if you have a problem they will send it back to Kel-tec themselves to fix it.
Sounds like people that have second hand Kel-tec's should contact kel-tec and voice there displeasure at having no paid support from their representative.
 
DiMP said:
What do you run for a sling setup on your rifle? Watched the playlist again and saw you had a sling but it didn't seem to be required much (if any) in these runs
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Ferro slickster.

Yeh it didnt get used at all.. only transporting from course to course.

Brandon
 
Can-down said:
Who is the Smith? I assume gunsmiths can get part from North Sylva..... is North Sylva still the importer? I just tried searchng for that answer and they seem to be well hidden online!

In many ways dealing with IRG is the better way to go, better price and if you have a problem they will send it back to Kel-tec themselves to fix it.
Sounds like people that have second hand Kel-tec's should contact kel-tec and voice there displeasure at having no paid support from their representative.
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Vault Distribution is the distributor. I am using the Smith they suggested. So there can be no #####ing about the Smith.


In wanted an RDB for a long time cause it's a cool idea and I'm a lefty. My experience with the rifle has pretty much ensured this will be my one and only Keltec product. I got an X95 to replace it and am pretty happy with that rifle so far.
 
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