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Went to the range today to sight in the Merkel with its scope, using different ammo but the last group was with 165gn federal fusion. The group was ok, 1.5” 5 shot group, most of the spread is my fault, need more practice with that light of a rifle! Still managed to hit a few 8” steel plates at 200m! I’m sure the groups will closed in with practice and reloads!
One interesting thing is I bought a box of nosler 165gn balistic tip ammo and some of the rounds needed two strikes to let the bullet fly, weird since none of the other ammo did that, not even the cheapest Remington coreloct.
Anyway, the rifle is a pleasure to shoot and a handle really well!
Forgot to say that the wind was crazy, 30km/h, gusting to 50km/h so maybe it wasn’t all my fault for the large group 🤔😉
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If I owned you're rifle, I would install a muzzle brake. A 30-06 with a light rifle, foot-pounds of energy will be felt.
 
A muzzle brake...on that gun??? :puke:

Maybe a flashlight mount, a red-dot on top of the scope and some M-Lok sections too? :LOL:

It's a hunting rifle; do you plan on plinking dozens or hundreds of rounds at a time with it?
 
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A muzzle brake...on that gun??? :puke:

Maybe a flashlight mount, a red-dot on top of the scope and some M-Lok sections too? :LOL:

It's a hunting rifle; do you plan on plinking dozens or hundreds of rounds at a time with it?
The Merkel K5 is threaded for a brake/surpressor: reduced recoil does improve accuracy. Many models of rifles today are threaded, which leaves it an option for a brake or a surpressor. They can be removed and the thread cap replaced within one minute.
 
The Merkel K5 is threaded for a brake/surpressor: reduced recoil does improve accuracy. Many models of rifles today are threaded, which leaves it an option for a brake or a surpressor. They can be removed and the thread cap replaced within one minute.
I get that; in today's world, everybody and his uncle needs a suppressor. I can't help but think that a person who pays a premium for a rifle whose aesthetics are a large part of its charm (and cost) is less likely to want to modernize its looks with one of these gizmos, or with a brake.

Reduced recoil does not improve the accuracy of a rifle; it simply makes it easier for the shooter to obtain the best accuracy possible with that rifle, which is not the same thing. My point is that a rifle that is typically shot many times at one sitting will indeed become more difficult to shoot well as that protracted session continues, and that this effect is more obvious in a higher-recoiling gun than in one that shoots much softer. But...is this rifle a range toy? I don't think it is; it's a hunting rifle that, once sighted in, will be shot occasionally, once or maybe a couple shots at a time.

For one shot, or two, or even a few...recoil should not enter into the equation.

A brake that can be installed for range shooting, but then removed for hunting sounds like a work-around...but in practice, most rifles won't shoot exactly to the same point of aim when the gizmo is added or removed. Different harmonics, different weight...just different.

It's all personal preference, and of course to each his own...but IMHO putting a muzzle brake on a sleek, beautiful, lightweight stalking rifle like this defeats much of the purpose of buying it in the first place. YMMV. :)

If efficiency and effectiveness to the Nth degree is the main goal...I doubt that the user would be selecting a single-shot in the first place.
 
I get that; in today's world, everybody and his uncle needs a suppressor. I can't help but think that a person who pays a premium for a rifle whose aesthetics are a large part of its charm (and cost) is less likely to want to modernize its looks with one of these gizmos, or with a brake.

Reduced recoil does not improve the accuracy of a rifle; it simply makes it easier for the shooter to obtain the best accuracy possible with that rifle, which is not the same thing. My point is that a rifle that is typically shot many times at one sitting will indeed become more difficult to shoot well as that protracted session continues, and that this effect is more obvious in a higher-recoiling gun than in one that shoots much softer. But...is this rifle a range toy? I don't think it is; it's a hunting rifle that, once sighted in, will be shot occasionally, once or maybe a couple shots at a time.

For one shot, or two, or even a few...recoil should not enter into the equation.

A brake that can be installed for range shooting, but then removed for hunting sounds like a work-around...but in practice, most rifles won't shoot exactly to the same point of aim when the gizmo is added or removed. Different harmonics, different weight...just different.

It's all personal preference, and of course to each his own...but IMHO putting a muzzle brake on a sleek, beautiful, lightweight stalking rifle like this defeats much of the purpose of buying it in the first place. YMMV. :)

If efficiency and effectiveness to the Nth degree is the main goal...I doubt that the user would be selecting a single-shot in the first place.
Well, if a person is going to conduct load development, a multitude of shots are required, in-which DGY stated that he is going to do. I've been reloading hence 1982, and a few trips to the gun range is required to-do-so.

For my kipplauf, it is not set-up with a thread for a muzzlebrake, nor would I install one, it's a $10,000 rifle. However, threaded barrels today are a great convienence, can change them out in seconds. I know there are people who do-not like the threaded muzzle, it takes-away from the traditional appearance, nor would I do it with my Ruger #1.
 

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Like I said, to each his own. I've been reloading for about ten years longer than you have, although I'm a cheapskate and do it to save money and shoot more, not because I continue to chase that last 0.1MOA or that extra 10fps. I have a sneaky suspicion that DGY will work up a nice load for that lovely gun, sight it in precisely, use it lovingly for hunting...but will not be shooting it constantly in the years ahead. Maybe I'm wrong; it's happened a couple of times already. :)

I have the extreme good fortune to live in a rural location that allows me to shoot on my own property. When I do load development or sight in a new rifle, I can shoot it as long as it remains comfortable. If it's a big boomer and I start to feel fatigued, or simply that it isn't being fun anymore...I just call it a day and continue tomorrow.

Maybe, if I had to drive a distance to my shooting spot and it was an all-day affair...maybe...I might have those horrid threads on all my rifles. But I doubt it; I had to go to a range to shoot for much of my life, and I used all kinds of recoil pads and shoulder pads and other stuff to maximize my time at the range and minimize recoil...but even when brakes became a common thing, I never considered them for my "nice rifles".
My first .375H&H was a Sako AV Hunter that my father purchased for me, when I was approaching 20. I loved that gun, but after using it on woodchucks and skunks for a few years I foolishly let myself be talked into sending it out to have it MagnaPorted. When it came back, I found the porting reduced recoil a bit...and reduced muzzle jump a bit more...but I found the increase in muzzle blast was more unpleasant than the recoil ever had been. If one must have a non-emotional reason not to use brakes, that's a very real one for many people.

Once again...to each his own. :)
 
I thought about getting a brake for it, but since I installed the scope it does feel better at the bench and I wouldn’t know what brake to buy, if something it would be if some one make that, a brake that is like the magnaported rifle barrel you see on some rifles and hand guns, i think that would not look too bad! That said I don’t have a brake on my 9.3x62 or my 458win mag(9lbs rifle).
So unless I find the right brake it will be w/o a brake and I will be fine I think!
 
A 6 3/4 lb 30-06 is not a fire breathing howitzer. If anything 7-7.5 lbs set up is the perfect weight for a gun like that

My haenel weighs 2oz more. It shoots 196 grains into a little over an inch. Like jj I do not care much for reloading for anything but shooting the bullets I want for cheaper. That is good enough for me
 
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