Kodiak defence SKS-KD
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Elwood Epps, I found them.
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Ya no kidding. Talk about false advertising.
"Kodiak Defence SKS-D REMANUFACTURED"
"BLUED FINISH, ATI STRIKEFORCE SYNTHETIC STOCK WITH 6-POSITION RETRACTING / FOLDING STOCK, ADJUSTABLE CHEEK PIECE, PICATINNY SCOPE MOUNT RAIL, RE-MANUFACTURED MILITARY SURPLUS"
"DETACHABLE AK STYLE ATI MAGAZINE"
Just putting a rifle in a aftermarket stock, and putting in an ATI magazine does not, an SKS-D, make.
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Sorry, not true, as far as branding goes.
Yes, the Chinese SKS-D is a civilian production gun. However, the SKS-D is a specific model of gun, and built by the Chinese. Just like the SKS-M, the MC-5D, and a whole variety of SKS types that featured very specific features and magazine release designs.
What Ellwood Epps has is an SKS, that has been modified to accept a detachable magazine. The ads don't say if the SKS are Chinese, Russian or otherwise. The guns may be SKS-D or SKS-M "like", but they are not actual SKS-D.
The ads for that reason are misleading. SKS-D does not just refer to a SKS that has been modified to take detachable mags. It referes to a specific model offered by a particular country, whether military issue or not.
These are customized, bubba rifles that have been put in aftermarket stocks, and modified to accept ATI mags. They are not commercially made SKS-D Chinese SKS.
In that respect, the two types are not "absolutely identical". This is akin to putting a Tapco mag in a Russian SKS and trying to pawn it off as an SKS-D when selling it.
I actually edited my post right after posting it, you'll notice it doesn't say edited.
The SKS-D is a specific model of commercial SKS that was chopped up for the US commercial market. How is a Chinese custom wood stock somehow more authentic than a US custom plastic stock? It's not. You can add a different magazine release to any SKS. It doesn't mean anything.
Just because a legitimate company put on aftermarket wood stocks and machined the rifles to take AK magazines doesn't make it "real", while a Canadian company doing the exact same thing without machine work makes it "fake".
Also, in Canada nearly all models of SKS commercial guns that take AK magazines are referred to as an SKS-D. Every one in the EE is listed as an SKS-D regardless of actual model. It's just nomenclature for the masses, even if it is not technically correct. People define the language.
And they were a $150 Chinese commercial SKS when the type 45/56 style commercial SKS was $89 lol. Same QC, same crappy manufacturing, same crappy fitment. Nothing authentic about them except the handful of quality NOS parts hand fitted like only a toothless yocal from the hills can. I laugh at the EE prices people want for them. Its like an old chevy cavalier with a few factory add-ons that puts it in camaro price range.
Could not have said it better.
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SKS-D is a specific model offered to the public, not a generic description as used by Ellwood here. Believe it or not, people would buy the specific Chinese version based on that difference, vs a bubba'd rifle with a detachable mag.
In fact there are very specific differences between a whole variety of commercial Chinese SKS offerings. Not every Chinese produced detachable mag SKS is an SKS-D. Some models are actually SKS-M, others are MC-5D, and so on.
If you are actually in the market of collecting SKS, either military or civilian made, there is a huge difference.
How has it been chopped up for US market? It was made that way... Your not understanding that the SKS-D is a legitimate rifle, built from scratch.
We are not arguing about qulity. Its a matter of legitimacy.
Its not a SKS-D.
Its like... If i buy a Honda civic... its a Honda civic... are you going to tell me its a Toyota Camry? They are different. IF you said, "Honda Civic" for sale, and sold me a Toyota Camry, you just scammed me.
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Bingo.
The overwhelming majority of people refer to any Chinese made SKS that takes AK magazines as an SKS-D in Canada, regardless of model. That's just fact. Look at the EE. They're ALL listed as an "SKS-D". While it may not be technically correct, it's just nomenclature, as I said. The people define the language as they use it, like it or not. Retailers and advertisers are going to use the language of the people to sell to the people.
The SKS-D was just a poorly made commercial firearm, by a commercial company for the general public. That's all.
The SKS-D was just a poorly made commercial firearm, by a commercial company for the general public. That's all.
