Krinker Plinker -- *NEW* Model

The kit is legal. It's not a firearm, so there's nothing that could make it prohibited.

The AKT-98's status depends on government official's opinions of whether or not it constitutes a a variant.

I hope I'm not getting you down with my excessive negativity, but the law on this matter is not clear, so you really can't make predictions.

On the other hand, it does mean that even if you can't get an AKT, you can still get a Krinker kit. :)
 
Krinker Plinker Update...

Okay... there are a small number of these kits arriving next week.

The new design is very nice... much nicer than the previous version.

The 16" barrel has a fake silencer that slips over the barrel and threads on. It is easily removed, leaving you with a match grade 16" barrel, threaded at the end. (We don't think we can get export permits for the 8" but that's still not 100% final at this point).

There is a catch to these kits (even the 16" barrel kit)...

When assembled the folding stock results in a firearm that is less than 26" overall length. You could arrange to weld the stock which would allow you to maintain the non-restricted status (over 26" overall length)... or you would have to have the gun re-registered as a new construction... in which case it would be classified "restricted" based on the overall length.

The US pricing is $295.00... looks like Canadian price will be @ $450 to $470
 
C&S has some new photos up at their site... Man this new kit looks sharp!

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C&S is willing to weld the stock and/or brake before shipping.
(I believe the Canadians that ordered from C&S previously, ordered the 8" kit, and had C&S weld Both the stock and brake in order to meet the 26" criteria.)

I touched base with Jon Shoop the other week regarding exporting the 8" barrel version from the 'states... he was not convinced that this was impossible.

-- Dumbguy
 
Spoke to CFC this morning about these kits.

Simply put, because the 10/22 is a rimfire rifle it is not subject to the barrel minimum that applies to centerfire rifles or shotguns (18.5").

BUT... it is subject to the overall minimum length stipulation of 660mm:

a rifle or shotgun that can fire when its overall length is reduced by folding, telescoping or some other means to less than 660 mm (26 inches);​
If you install the kit as it comes from the manufacturer then the overall length of your firearm will be under 26" meaning that it would now be a "Restricted" firearm. Once you install the Krinker Plinker kit onto your 10/22 you are legally required to have the registration ammended to reflect this change of classification.

If you choose to modify the kit by having the folding stock permanently welded (obviously in the open position :) ), then the overall length exceeds the minimum requirement and the firearm continues to be classified as a non-restricted rifle.
 
Yes; for the Krinker to remain non-restricted, barrel length is not an issue in itself.
Though there definately needs to be some welding done to the Krinker to maintain the non-restricted 26" overall length requirement.

I am surprised, however, by the statement that shortening a non-restricted rifle below 26" would result in a restricted rifle -- I was under the impression that this was a complete no-no, and that the result would be a prohibited firearm ?...

-- Dumbguy
 
dumbguy said:
Yes; for the Krinker to remain non-restricted, barrel length is not an issue in itself.
Though there definately needs to be some welding done to the Krinker to maintain the non-restricted 26" overall length requirement.

I am surprised, however, by the statement that shortening a non-restricted rifle below 26" would result in a restricted rifle -- I was under the impression that this was a complete no-no, and that the result would be a prohibited firearm ?...

-- Dumbguy

I'd want clarification on this issue, as I'm under the same impression. It seems to be possible to move a restricted firearm to non-restricted by altering the dimention that caused to to be restricted. To change a firearm already registered as non-restricted into restricted has seemed to be impossible. If the CFC and RCMP Tech Branch are willing to document that this is a legal conversion, I'm in!!!
 
Yeah; I've yet to hear of anyone with a legal <26" Krinker.

But if it was possible; how cool would this be ?!...

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-- Dumbguy
 
Any word on if Questar can bring in the pre welded short barreled version?

I am very close to oredering one of these.

fed007
 
How about welding a piece of flat stock to the side of the folder? It would be flat against the reciever when the stock was extended but stick out just far enough to make it legal when folded..
 
Can a stock be made of cardboard and duct tape? :D is a 'flexible' stock the stame as a folding one?

fed007
 
Canuck223 said:
I'd want clarification on this issue, as I'm under the same impression. It seems to be possible to move a restricted firearm to non-restricted by altering the dimention that caused to to be restricted. To change a firearm already registered as non-restricted into restricted has seemed to be impossible. If the CFC and RCMP Tech Branch are willing to document that this is a legal conversion, I'm in!!!

CFC has given me written confirmation that the kits are legal. They are considered a "Commercial Customization" and as such allow you to go from non-restricted to restricted classification... it's the "Commercial Customization" that is the key as I understand it.
 
fed007 said:
Any word on if Questar can bring in the pre welded short barreled version?

I am very close to oredering one of these.

fed007

We won't "pre-weld" them... that would be up to the end-user if they choose that option. I'd rather offer you the flexibility to choose which option you want, rather than make the decision for you.

Mark.
 
How long is the 16in barrel version with the stock closed? Is it close to 26in? I think I'd rather have a flashhider or even the fake suppresser welded on the end and keep the stock a folder if possible.
 
MPI said:
How long is the 16in barrel version with the stock closed? Is it close to 26in? I think I'd rather have a flashhider or even the fake suppresser welded on the end and keep the stock a folder if possible.

I believe we measured it at 24"
 
Questar said:
CFC has given me written confirmation that the kits are legal. They are considered a "Commercial Customization" and as such allow you to go from non-restricted to restricted classification... it's the "Commercial Customization" that is the key as I understand it.

Beautiful!!!

Now, any way we can either get, or have made the 8 inch version?

I know it may be hard or impossible to get the barrels exported cut to 8 inches. Would it be possible to take advantage of the difference in the way Canada and the US measure barrel length? By that I mean have the 16 inch barrels counterbored to an 8 inch length by the manufacturer. Canada stops measuring the barrel at the end of the rifled section, so it's imported as an 8 inch, but the US measure to the end of the permanently attached section, so it's a legal 16 inch down south.

Just an idea!?!
 
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