Krinker Plinker -- *NEW* Model

I imported my 8" kit through Leroy's Big Valley Gun Works about a year and a half ago.

I'm looking at my copy of the US export permit now, and under commodity it says "Conversion kit for Ruger 10/22 .22LR rifle, includes: barrel, sights & stock. Krinker Plinker - mfg. USA"

No mention of the barrel length, but the State Dept didn't seem to mind that omission since they approved it.

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Baal said:
I imported my 8" kit through Leroy's Big Valley Gun Works about a year and a half ago.

I'm looking at my copy of the US export permit now, and under commodity it says "Conversion kit for Ruger 10/22 .22LR rifle, includes: barrel, sights & stock. Krinker Plinker - mfg. USA"

No mention of the barrel length, but the State Dept didn't seem to mind that omission since they approved it.

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A lot has changed in the past year and a half. Back then you could get export approval for an 11.5" Colt LE AR... not today.

We're trying to get a permit right now (similar to what you just described) for the kits without a specified barrel length. Last time we tried that it was returned RWA. Who knows, next time it may be approved.

All I can do is speak for ourselves. If you or someone else you know can get a permit (today) for 8" kits then I congratulate you. So far we haven't been able to. Please let me know how you make out.
 
On the topic of modifying the 16" kit to meet the 26" requirement for non-restricted:

Anbody got a photo they can share, of what the 16" kit looks like with the fake silencer removed, and a "sufficiently long" flashhider threaded on ?

Mostly just curious.

-- Dumbguy
 
8" Krinker came together beautifully!

Well, I am very impressed so far. Got it put together over the weekend but haven't had a chance to put any rounds through it. This is the 8" Krinker with the folder welded open by C&S and touched up with some paint. Looks clean and out of site. Everything went together very nicely. I don't have any 25 rnd clips so the stock ruger 10 rnd will have to suffice for now. :D

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That 8" *does* look Cool. I need one.

Handy that C&S will weld these things open for us. (Did you have them weld the flash-hider on too, or is this unnecessary on this version?)

How did you get this short-barrel version out of the 'States... through Leroy's?

-- Dumbguy
 
Dumbguy, without the flash-hider, the O/L is 25.25 inches. This is obviously a no-no so I used some Red Loctite to make sure that she was on good and solid. She now measures 27 7/8".

Picture of Welded Arm

Nice clean weld, and only noticeable if you were actually looking for it. Picture is taken looking up the backside of the grip. You can see the hinge on the left side.

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mr_chooch said:
Dumbguy, without the flash-hider, the O/L is 25.25 inches. This is obviously a no-no so I used some Red Loctite to make sure that she was on good and solid. She now measures 27 7/8".
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Excuse my ignorance is red loctite really a permanent fixture?
 
I used the Loctite 271. Item no. 27131. It is used extensively in sawmill applications as a high strength adhesive.

It is a high strength Threadlocker that requires heat or special tools to disassemble. Heat may not be enough. I tried to disassemble a nut off of a bolt with some heat and it wasn't easy!

If I have to tack it with a weld, no problem. But who is to say that the weld can't be ground off?
 
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mr_chooch said:
Well, I am very impressed so far. Got it put together over the weekend but haven't had a chance to put any rounds through it. This is the 8" Krinker with the folder welded open by C&S and touched up with some paint. Looks clean and out of site. Everything went together very nicely. I don't have any 25 rnd clips so the stock ruger 10 rnd will have to suffice for now. :D

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Hey Cooch

how did you get this, this is the one i want
 
cantom said:
That's gorgeous and would be my first choice...what's the OAL with the short barrel and wood stock?
Anywhere to buy same?
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This one is just a touch under 28".

I might need to sell it in the near future to fund a different project.

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hunterhenderson said:
this is the version i want, how do we do it??
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We have both the 16" (updated Canadian version) and the 8" kits in stock now. We also have a limited number of 8" barrels for those that have the 16" kits and want to have both barrel lengths.

Mark
 
Questar said:
We have both the 16" (updated Canadian version) and the 8" kits in stock now. We also have a limited number of 8" barrels for those that have the 16" kits and want to have both barrel lengths.

Mark
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If the 8" kit has the stock welded open and flash hider welded, it is non-restricted, right? Can you supply the kit with both items already welded? Same price?

Do you have large 10-22 mags for sale?

Do you have and sell the Krinkov flash hider separately?
 
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Questar said:
CFC has given me written confirmation that the kits are legal. They are considered a "Commercial Customization" and as such allow you to go from non-restricted to restricted classification... it's the "Commercial Customization" that is the key as I understand it.
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Mark from Questar; could you post a .pdf copy of this letter from the CFC and link it to your Krinker page.

I think most folks would be hesitant to build/try-to-register a <26" Krinker, without written confirmation in-hand that this would be legal.

-- Dumbguy

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dumbguy said:
Mark from Questar; could you post a .pdf copy of this letter from the CFC and link it to your Krinker page.

I think most folks would be hesitant to build/try-to-register a <26" Krinker, without written confirmation in-hand that this would be legal.

-- Dumbguy
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The kits are legal because they are classified as a Commercial Customization. That's not exactly the same as "build/try-to-register a <26" yourself.

Here's the written statement from CFC. This was based on the original 16" kit, which was under 660mm when the stock was folded. The Re-Designed Canadian Version meets the 660mm requirement (as long as the "pin" is insert into the suppressor when assembly is completed). The 8" kits would require re-registration unless you modify the kit (by welding the folding stock open):

Mark

As promised, here is a formal reply to your question below.

I have reviewed the after market accessory kit known as the "Krinker Plinker" by C&S Metal Werke at http://www.krinkerplinker.com.
As you are well aware, the Ruger 10/22 is an entity unto itself, and there are a great number of after market kits available to transform its appearance to that which will resemble any number of other type firearms. The essence of these conversions however, it that they are cosmetic in nature, and do not change the classification of the firearm in question. Most often, as is the case with the Krinker Plinker, the Ruger receiver markings are still visable, and while at first glance it may appear as something else, a short visual inspection will identify it as a Ruger 10/22 carbine. Trusting that no alterations have been made that change the operation of the firearm- say from semi-auto matic to full automatic, or that change the cartridge type from rim-fire to center-fire, it is safe to recognize these kts as "dress-up" cosmetic changes only.

In the case of the Krinker Plinker above, where a barrel change and a stock change is involved, you are correct in questioning the Criminal Code application. Because Ruger 10/22 barrels are commercially available in a number of lengths, (commercially available is the operative word here) it is recognized by the Canada Firearms Center that these are readily being installed and provided that the overall length does not drop below 660 mm, no change in classification because of a barrel change is required. As is the case with an after-market folding stock and the original barrel; provided the overall lenth does not fall below 660, there is no issue with the Criminal Code and the addition of a folding stock.

In reviewing this application and by following your measurements, it is understood that with the installation of this kit, your overall length will fall below the 660 minimum limit if folded, therefore a firearms classification change from non-restricted to restricted would then be in order. The ramifications of this are severe to the owner, as his licence requirements would change, and the firearm would be subject to increased restrictions for storage, handling, and use. The welding of the stock in a permanently open position would negate this class change, again I must re-iterate the "permanent" importance of the alteration.

You are also correct in your understanding of the Criminal Code and the alteration. Alteration is non-commercial cutting/sawing of a firearm to create a shortened version of the original firearm without replacing parts. This action is typically in contravention of the Criminal Code, particularily when a change in firearms class is incurred. Generally the alteration of a firearm, in this sense, is regarded as illegal.

I trust this answers your questions with regard to the legality of the Krinker Plinker. Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards,

George

Firearms Analyst/ Technical Advisor
Technical Advisory Group
CFC-CAFC ​
 
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