"Laser Beam"
- Thread starter Fozy
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Don't waste your money. They only look good in commercials.
In real life, they are useless. I've seen guys with these in my club
Constantly adjusting them. Poor shooters buy them to give the
the "edge", and as soon as they learn how to shoot more less
inside 6" circle on 25 yards they drop them like a bad habit.
Don't waste your money. Buy more ammo instead.
I used a Crimson Trace on my M&P to see how unsteady I was holding the pistol. It allowed me to see my improvement as the laser would move a lot as I shot...
In that respect, I really liked it... Also, it never needed adjusting and was always on target.
In that respect, I really liked it... Also, it never needed adjusting and was always on target.
They look good and seem usefull at first but you will probably drop them along the way, and will develop better shooting habits while shooting with standard sights (at least for the typical canadian shooter who does mainly target shooting). They also price high, around 300$ for a basic laser..
The laser poo poos are out again 
I run the Viridian green laser/light on a Hk P30l, I set the POI at 15yards and its very accurate.
Remember proper sighting technique with your standard sights first and foremost the laser is for stressfull close up situations when you CANT use your sights . If you were injured/on your back some awkward position its very helpfull to know exactly where your bullet will hit and thats what a laser is for IMO.
I run the Viridian green laser/light on a Hk P30l, I set the POI at 15yards and its very accurate.
Remember proper sighting technique with your standard sights first and foremost the laser is for stressfull close up situations when you CANT use your sights . If you were injured/on your back some awkward position its very helpfull to know exactly where your bullet will hit and thats what a laser is for IMO.
To hell with the critics.....
They are cool as hell and they are a blast to play with.... Dont get me wrong, they will never replace proper practice and technique, however, the fun factor is very, very, high.
I can draw my Kimber with my arm at a 90 degree and pop water bottles at 25yds, one after another.... thats with Crimson Trace.
I would stick to the crimson trace units, they put the laser more in line with the barrel... Mine hasnt moved after hundreds of rounds, but my M6x mounted on the rail under my Glock isnt nearly as accurate.
TONS OF FUN.
They are cool as hell and they are a blast to play with.... Dont get me wrong, they will never replace proper practice and technique, however, the fun factor is very, very, high.
I can draw my Kimber with my arm at a 90 degree and pop water bottles at 25yds, one after another.... thats with Crimson Trace.
I would stick to the crimson trace units, they put the laser more in line with the barrel... Mine hasnt moved after hundreds of rounds, but my M6x mounted on the rail under my Glock isnt nearly as accurate.
TONS OF FUN.
The laser poo poos are out again
I run the Viridian green laser/light on a Hk P30l, I set the POI at 15yards and its very accurate.
Remember proper sighting technique with your standard sights first and foremost the laser is for stressfull close up situations when you CANT use your sights . If you were injured/on your back some awkward position its very helpfull to know exactly where your bullet will hit and thats what a laser is for IMO.
Being injured or lying supine has no effect on ones ability to use the sights. If the encounter occurs at bad breathe distance, you shouldn't need sights to make hits. Point shooting works and has a place, that place being extreme close quarters. Lasers may help in some circumstances but they're still electronic devices prone to failure. Those who've mastered their irons don't run lasers.
To the OP. Don't waste your money. Invest in ammo and training.
TDC
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- SW Ontario
You will find both pros and cons with laser sights.
Cons -
Don't get lazy and depend on the laser only!!!!!
They don't works well in the smoke.
They don't work well in bright sunlight.
They use batteries and they do run out.
It is another stage before you squeeze the trigger.
Pros -
You will be able to see how much you flinch and catch your bad habits very easily.
You will be able to acquire the target with the gun at your chest without delays and with the ASSURANCE that you will hit where the dot is. I think that this is very important.
Not true that you need to constantly adjust them.
If you are LE you can make your target surrender without firing the gun.
It is a matter of you either like them or you don't. For some people it is ok to spend $300 on an accessory that you will turn on for a couple of hours / year. For others that's prohibitive. I’ll give you one advice don't rely on lasers only because you will find it harder when you shoot without them. Shoot more using your regular sites and turn them on for 25% or less of your shooting.
Crimson trace is solid laser bright and Laser Max an oscillating laser. I don’t have a preference between those two I have both kinds.
Cons -
Don't get lazy and depend on the laser only!!!!!
They don't works well in the smoke.
They don't work well in bright sunlight.
They use batteries and they do run out.
It is another stage before you squeeze the trigger.
Pros -
You will be able to see how much you flinch and catch your bad habits very easily.
You will be able to acquire the target with the gun at your chest without delays and with the ASSURANCE that you will hit where the dot is. I think that this is very important.
Not true that you need to constantly adjust them.
If you are LE you can make your target surrender without firing the gun.
It is a matter of you either like them or you don't. For some people it is ok to spend $300 on an accessory that you will turn on for a couple of hours / year. For others that's prohibitive. I’ll give you one advice don't rely on lasers only because you will find it harder when you shoot without them. Shoot more using your regular sites and turn them on for 25% or less of your shooting.
Crimson trace is solid laser bright and Laser Max an oscillating laser. I don’t have a preference between those two I have both kinds.
I have the Crimson trace on my G26, actually I find it works a bit like a beavertail, growing used to the feel. Good shooting techniques and lots of practice are important. but the laser is good for a home defense firearm. they cost more than they should, but for certain circumstance they are worth it. for daylight laser are not great over 10 yards unless you go green. If you want one get it, put it on a gun with night sights.
I checked Ebay as well.....
Finding someone in the US that would ship to Canada was a pain so I ended up getting mine from Fabrice at Fabsports... $269.00 +tax+shipping. Cost me just under $300.00, however, I cant find any in Canada for my Glock 30 that arent overpriced, so I might have to go to Ebay.
As for the rest of the advise, everyone has some great points... Dont rely on them, use them so your good with them and then focus on your regular practice and training, Sights dont burn out... Also, if you get the Crimson Trace, they come on when you grip the gun, no need of another step before firing, and you can turn them off for regular practice. They are very bright in the daylight. I can see mine at 25yds, even at midday.
Gord.
Finding someone in the US that would ship to Canada was a pain so I ended up getting mine from Fabrice at Fabsports... $269.00 +tax+shipping. Cost me just under $300.00, however, I cant find any in Canada for my Glock 30 that arent overpriced, so I might have to go to Ebay.
As for the rest of the advise, everyone has some great points... Dont rely on them, use them so your good with them and then focus on your regular practice and training, Sights dont burn out... Also, if you get the Crimson Trace, they come on when you grip the gun, no need of another step before firing, and you can turn them off for regular practice. They are very bright in the daylight. I can see mine at 25yds, even at midday.
Gord.
