Legalities of a 10 round magazine in a semi shotgun

[Big Bad]

My 2 cents: I used to hear-tell of some folks who had a working full-auto Lewis machine gun but they never brought it out in public and so got to keep it. Lots of people have cars that will exceed 200 kph but they don't demonstrate that in public and so they get to keep those. Why therefore go around shooting something like a 10 round semi auto and literally begging to have it confiscated and quite possibly prohibited as a class? It's not like there isn't a whole federal police force literally champing at the bit to ban things.

 

[rommelrommel]

My 2 cents: I used to hear-tell of some folks who had a working full-auto Lewis machine gun but they never brought it out in public and so got to keep it. Lots of people have cars that will exceed 200 kph but they don't demonstrate that in public and so they get to keep those. Why therefore go around shooting something like a 10 round semi auto and literally begging to have it confiscated and quite possibly prohibited as a class? It's not like there isn't a whole federal police force literally champing at the bit to ban things.

These are way more niche than Beowulf mags or 10/22 mags. I think the only strategic risk is is another opinion piece of paper from the lab stating that they think these mags are dual use. I guess that could suck for the few Turkish mag fed pump shotgun owners out there, but I’d expect that would get as much compliance as the 10/22 mag opinion.

When they come to ban semi autos it wouldn’t be this specifically targeted, it will be them all or close to all.

If the mag was clearly marked for a pump action shot gun, I would not worry.
But on these shot guns, I don't think anything is on the mag, so what gun was it made for????? that would be the big question in court.
I know a couple dealers and RCMP members that don't know the regulations on this
Plus I find a mag fed shot gun a ##### to carry, on a quad, or in the closet, I could see it.

Lockhart Tactical has some that are clearly marked for the AS46. The early AS46 mags weren’t marked as such, but I do have a receipt for 10 round AS46 mags.

 

[Boomer]

If I were standing in front of a judge trying to explain why my semi automatic shotgun is allowed to hold 10 rounds when the law states they must not exceed 5 rounds I doubt I would win. Just because a 10 round magazine is legal in a pump action doesn't make it legal to use in your semi auto shotgun. (Which must not use a magazine that allows it to exceed 5 shots)

I think I might point out (politely) in the case of the AR-15, a 10 round LAR .223 pistol magazine is legal to attach to an AR-15 rifle, ergo if the 10 round shotgun magazine was manufactured specifically for a pump action shotgun, and marked accordingly, attaching it to a semi-auto does not contravene the Firearms Act. The magazine is either lawful to posses or its not.

As an aside, I prefer a tube magazine on a shotgun for a number of reasons, and believe that a 5 round tube is the correct length for general use, including wildlife defense. Knowing how to run the gun includes knowing how to load it, and change loads midstream.

 

[pacobillie]

From a strict legal standpoint, if the magazine was designed and intended to be used in a pump action shotgun, it is not a prohibited device. Thus, its possesion is not a crime. If it is capable of being used in a semi, doing so is not a crime either. However, convincing that (not so) friendly RCMP officer of that might be difficult. If you fail at that, the next person you will talk to will likely be a judge. They are not infallible. You should succeed, but at the end of the day, you might be ruined. Do you really want to go through that?

 

[Papaclaude]

The only person you'll get a definative answer from is the judge you're standing in front of;
and then it's only his opinion.
(convoluted laws).

Unfortunately, this is, in all likelihood, the truth of it. I wish our gun laws (like so many others) were a little more clear-cut. If it's OK to use a 10-round LAR mag in an AR, then it should be legal to own and use any 10-shot mag (although they would likely just make ot a blanket 5-round for all semi's). Same with safe storage and transportation regs - tell us what constitutes an acceptable device, so there is no question about it. If some poor Bozo (is a female Bozo a Bozette?) gets charged with the 10 round pump shotgun mag, even if he/she wins, it will bankrupt them.

 

[Innavedaw]

Unfortunately, this is, in all likelihood, the truth of it. I wish our gun laws (like so many others) were a little more clear-cut. If it's OK to use a 10-round LAR mag in an AR, then it should be legal to own and use any 10-shot mag (although they would likely just make ot a blanket 5-round for all semi's). Same with safe storage and transportation regs - tell us what constitutes an acceptable device, so there is no question about it. If some poor Bozo (is a female Bozo a Bozette?) gets charged with the 10 round pump shotgun mag, even if he/she wins, it will bankrupt them.

What part of the law is unclear regarding mags? If a magazine is legal in one gun, it's legal in all guns...I agree that most of the firearms act is an abomination but this part is clear.

Sometimes we complicate our lives needlessly. And for everything else, there's Firearms Legal Defence insurance...No need to get bankrupted if you aren't doing anything illegal.

 

[Gatehouse]

All this talk about standing in front of judges is pretty far fetched. I predict nobody will ever make it in front of a judge for using a pump action magazine in a semi.