Let's see some pic's of your SxS's & O/U's

canvasback said:
John thanks for re-posting the proofs. Been working on building a fence this weekend. Surprisingly, my hunting dog doesn't just sit beside the house when I let her out.

Will get at the proofs tonight.

That is beautiful work Chris did on the stock. He's just getting going on a re-stock for me....a Remington 1894 BE project gun I have had for a while. Broken hammer and a bad stock. This one I will probably have Oskar do the CCH as well. It has nice Damascus barrels so getting those re-done in the proper black and white will be the final piece of that puzzle. Look here to see the pics.....in about 18 months! LOL
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18 months is about right, may be a little more like 24 months. Takes time to do great work in this trade. :)
 
jpbcal308 said:
18 months is about right, may be a little more like 24 months. Takes time to do great work in this trade. :)
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John, this will be my seventh complete re-do although the first that has required a new stock. Longest was 3 1/2 years, shortest was about 7 months. I have another that I am doing concurrently with this Remington but I suspect that the other gun will get completed first. So I guess that gun will be number 7 and the Remington will be number 8 completed. And I have 6 or so more in the safe that need something done. Three more restocks, several Damascus re-dos, at least 3 barrel bluings and probably 3 more CCH but I'm slowly working my way through them.

I finally figured out if I don't spend the money on the refurbishment, the safe just gets overflowing with "projects". LOL
 
I finally figured out if I don't spend the money on the refurbishment, the safe just gets overflowing with "projects". LOL

You tell me,I really try not to buy anymore, but sometime I just can't help it, my J&W TOLLEY will leave next week to go visit Chris for a while.
 
John, didn't know (or don't remember) that you have a Tolley. So have I. Love it. Single shot 12 gauge. 5 pounds with 30" barrels (I think or they are 29"). Full case colours left, incredible original condition. No one shot it until I started to.
 
canvasback said:
John, didn't know (or don't remember) that you have a Tolley. So have I. Love it. Single shot 12 gauge. 5 pounds with 30" barrels (I think or they are 29"). Full case colours left, incredible original condition. No one shot it until I started to.
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I think mine has been used a little :) but it is a great looking double.
 
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jpbcal308 said:
Hi James, Those are the proof marks of the sxs French gun I need to indentifield. Thanks John
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John here's what I can tell you about the French gun

Two crowns over PT means it was double proved with T powder to a minimum psi of 16,356. This also means it is post 1926
The two Xmas trees pointing at each other directly beneath the double crown over PT means it was given final proof as a finished gun (barrels blued).
The three antlers look to be some kind of maker's mark, signifying some kind of quality level, in the same way Manufrance used wreaths. Speculation on my part.
The name on the barrels is likely the name of the barrel maker....all barrels were either marked with the name of the French barrel maker or they were deemed to be imported and marked to indicate that with "arme etrangere" after proof was completed.

Proof in France has been voluntary since 1885. As a result, proofing, double proofing, triple proofing were used as marketing ploys.

Because of a mark that is not there, or at least I'm not seeing in these pics, I think the gun dates between 1926 and 1946.
Your barrel length in millimetes, barrel weight, gauge and chambers should be marked somewhere, although if they were all within standard norms, sometimes the St Etienne house would just mark "normal" The French don't mark for choke.

I can't manipulate the pics...for some reason I can't grab these and get them on my computer, so I am having a great deal of difficulty figuring out the words (names?) that are stamped in the circular pattern at the forward end of the barrel flats.

As far as who made the gun, I can't tell you if it's not on the action or the top rib. But I think this gun was made sometime between 1926 and 1946 and given that it is at least double proved, was meant to a be a "better" quality gun.

If anyone has a different interpretation, please post. Reading this stuff can be a bit of a black art and I don't see enough different French guns to really get familiar with their marks.
 
I can't manipulate the pics...for some reason I can't grab these and get them on my computer, so I am having a great deal of difficulty figuring out the words (names?) that are stamped in the circular pattern at the forward end of the barrel flats.

The last word on the circular pattern is GARANTIE I'll try to figure out what the other words (stamping) are. Nothing about P. CAMUS ? you are right James it's a very well made shotgun. Again I really appreciate your help and time. John
 
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