Let's see some pic's of your SxS's & O/U's
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Here is my Elsie Smith. It was manufactured in 1901, chambered in the 16 gauge, 28 inch barrels, choked full and extra full. The gun was fully restored by Martini, Hagn and Turnbull. Everything is original, except that the grip cap has been replace with ebony and a silvers pad installed.
Thanks Canvasback. The gun loves to hammer ducks using tungsten or bismuth; hence the full and extra full chokes............ can't wait! Yea, those gun makers are on top of the league when it comes to firearms.
Another with English pedigree; W&C Scott & Sons, box-lock non-ejector, 12-bore, 30" barrels, a little over 7 lbs. When this gun was made, W&C Scott had already become a part of the larger Webley & Scott. My best efforts at putting a date to this gun places it in 1906/07. Champlin Arms had a very similar gun, but in 16-bore, #75430 which they dated to 1906. Mine is #75834, so it all comes down to how long it would take to build 400 guns. Gallyon's holds the records for Webley & Scott, but have no record earlier than 1912.
This is not by any means a "best" gun, but it is also not the worst. It's a middle-of-the-road box-lock for the day.
Bore diameters are stamped on the flats, plus the indication of "choke". The degree of choke was never specified, since this was often subject to alteration. Pre-1925 proofs. In guns 1925 and later, the chamber lengths were stamped on the flats.
A view of the hidden Greener crossbolt, plus W&C Scott Makers proudly stamped on the table.
London address on the barrel, but a Birmingham gun through & through
This is not by any means a "best" gun, but it is also not the worst. It's a middle-of-the-road box-lock for the day.
Bore diameters are stamped on the flats, plus the indication of "choke". The degree of choke was never specified, since this was often subject to alteration. Pre-1925 proofs. In guns 1925 and later, the chamber lengths were stamped on the flats.
A view of the hidden Greener crossbolt, plus W&C Scott Makers proudly stamped on the table.
London address on the barrel, but a Birmingham gun through & through
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ninepointer
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- Central Ontario
That middle of the road boxlock puts most current doubles to shame. Thanks for posting.
Okay, I haven't posted anything here for a while. Nothing really new to show. However today I thought I'd post a teaser.
I have had a couple old American guns I have never posted because they are a little beat up. Project guns. A Fox A grade and a Remington 1894 BE grade. So they have been sitting in the safe for a while, collecting dust. Finally got off my butt, chose a guy to do the work and sent them off. Now, when I say these two guns are a little rough, I'm not kidding. The stocks aren't done yet but they have been stripped, oil removed, gouges steamed out, butt plates refurbished, farmers bolt holes repaired and the heads have been pinned and epoxied for strength. The stocker just sent me these photos and in the last one the wood has been wetted so we can see what it will be like when completed. Turns out the Fox has spectacular wood for an A grade. My stocker, who specializes in Foxes and LC Smiths, says that in 30 years, he's never seen better Fox A grade wood. Yipee!!!! I nearly threw it out!
Fox barrels will get re-blued and the Remington Damascus barrels will be re-blackened. I probably won't (in the near term) CCH the actions although I am still debating that.
Stay tuned, more to follow:
The good sides:
That thing on the right is a forend LOL:
Cheeks of the Remy will be chequered to hide the farmer's bolt repair. The white thing is the chequering template:
I have had a couple old American guns I have never posted because they are a little beat up. Project guns. A Fox A grade and a Remington 1894 BE grade. So they have been sitting in the safe for a while, collecting dust. Finally got off my butt, chose a guy to do the work and sent them off. Now, when I say these two guns are a little rough, I'm not kidding. The stocks aren't done yet but they have been stripped, oil removed, gouges steamed out, butt plates refurbished, farmers bolt holes repaired and the heads have been pinned and epoxied for strength. The stocker just sent me these photos and in the last one the wood has been wetted so we can see what it will be like when completed. Turns out the Fox has spectacular wood for an A grade. My stocker, who specializes in Foxes and LC Smiths, says that in 30 years, he's never seen better Fox A grade wood. Yipee!!!! I nearly threw it out!
Fox barrels will get re-blued and the Remington Damascus barrels will be re-blackened. I probably won't (in the near term) CCH the actions although I am still debating that.
Stay tuned, more to follow:
The good sides:
That thing on the right is a forend LOL:
Cheeks of the Remy will be chequered to hide the farmer's bolt repair. The white thing is the chequering template:
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gunsaholic
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- Winnipeg, Manitoba
James, those strocks are coming along very nicely and, I might add, very quick. Can't wait to see final results.
Another with English pedigree; W&C Scott & Sons, box-lock non-ejector, 12-bore, 30" barrels, a little over 7 lbs. When this gun was made, W&C Scott had already become a part of the larger Webley & Scott. My best efforts at putting a date to this gun places it in 1906/07. Champlin Arms had a very similar gun, but in 16-bore, #75430 which they dated to 1906. Mine is #75834, so it all comes down to how long it would take to build 400 guns. Gallyon's holds the records for Webley & Scott, but have no record earlier than 1912.
This is not by any means a "best" gun, but it is also not the worst. It's a middle-of-the-road box-lock for the day.
Note how the screws under the fore-end iron are also engraved... in a spot you rarely see. Also good traces of the original colour hardening
Bore diameters are stamped on the flats, plus the indication of "choke". The degree of choke was never specified, since this was often subject to alteration. Pre-1925 proofs. In guns 1925 and later, the chamber lengths were stamped on the flats.
A view of the hidden Greener crossbolt, plus W&C Scott Makers proudly stamped on the table.
London address on the barrel, but a Birmingham gun through & through
The original catalogue illustration for this gun, from the 1914 wholesale catalogue. Price at that time- £18
Wow... Nice pic's on a great Gun.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Grand dad's old Lefeuchaux 16 under lever that has been extensively rebuilt so that it iss once again tight and a terror for upland birds!
68 grains of FFG and 7/8oz of plated shot works wonderfully!
Cat
68 grains of FFG and 7/8oz of plated shot works wonderfully!
Cat
Well I got my Remington and Fox stocks and forends back a couple days ago. The Remington still needs a little more work to be done but the Fox is back together. I'll be taking it out this weekend to put it through it's paces now that it is looking a little better (and stronger) Stock and forend were stripped, drained of oil, cracks pinned with steel, inletting epoxied, stained with alkanet and a new finish put on.
Because we have a long time between hunting seasons, what else do we have to do but fiddle with our guns....I'm on my way to making a composed set of matching 12 gauge A.H Fox (Philadelphia) A grade, 30" barrels, one set Full/full, one set IM/IM, double triggers, splinter forends. Original butt plates on both but the latest one had an extension built onto the original plate to get the LOP right. One gun is from 1908 and the other is 1909. While the guns have been refurbished they are all original parts.
Right now my barrels/forends are within 15 grams (1/2 oz) and the stock/receivers are within 90 grams (3 oz). Got to shoot both of them together and get the feel down and then adjust the weight of the stock. Don't know if I will be adding or subtracting to get the right, matching feel. But it will be fun!
Still have to tone down the finish on the new gun. It's a bit shiny for my taste. As well, once winter comes and the season is over, I will be tearing it down again to send the appropriate parts off for new CCH and blueing (at least I don't have to get the barrels done as they are almost perfect now).
Because we have a long time between hunting seasons, what else do we have to do but fiddle with our guns....I'm on my way to making a composed set of matching 12 gauge A.H Fox (Philadelphia) A grade, 30" barrels, one set Full/full, one set IM/IM, double triggers, splinter forends. Original butt plates on both but the latest one had an extension built onto the original plate to get the LOP right. One gun is from 1908 and the other is 1909. While the guns have been refurbished they are all original parts.
Right now my barrels/forends are within 15 grams (1/2 oz) and the stock/receivers are within 90 grams (3 oz). Got to shoot both of them together and get the feel down and then adjust the weight of the stock. Don't know if I will be adding or subtracting to get the right, matching feel. But it will be fun!
Still have to tone down the finish on the new gun. It's a bit shiny for my taste. As well, once winter comes and the season is over, I will be tearing it down again to send the appropriate parts off for new CCH and blueing (at least I don't have to get the barrels done as they are almost perfect now).
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ninepointer
CGN frequent flyer
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- Central Ontario
You've just added another 100 years of service to those doubles. A fine pair.
gunsaholic
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- Winnipeg, Manitoba
The Fox turned out pretty darn nice James. I'll probably see the grin on your face from here when you're carrying it in the field!
Thanks for sharing the pics of your lovely guns, one of mine....
Evans is still in business...http://www.williamevans.com/gun-room/
Thanks
Wow... That works beter than ###### keep em coming.
