Let's see some pic's of your SxS's & O/U's

Although work on the barrels has been going on for several years and we know now they were able to be returned to near perfection, I'm really starting the story elsewhere. The barrels and the wood stock finish will be among the last things documented. Starting now with a strip and clean of the action. Doesn't sound that interesting....but wait. A few hours in the ultrasonic bath can produce quite a surprise.

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The gunsmith said it was one of the dirtiest interiors he had ever come across. But that an overnight soak and a bit of time in the ultrasonic cleaner would probably be just the ticket. He was right:







 
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Charles Daly was a partner in the New York based sporting goods retailer Schoverling, Daly & Gales. They were a large retailer of both American and British firearms, among other things, with a big catalogue business in addition to their stores. A direct competitor to firms like Abercrombie and Fitch. He had the idea, starting in the late 1870's, to source fine firearms and put their own name on them. So the Charles Daly brand was born. Over the years Charles Daly guns have been produced in places as varied as Prussia, Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan. Including from such well known makers as JP Sauer & Sohn in Germany, Miroku in Japan, J & W Tolley in England, Beretta in Italy and Lefever in the US. . But the early ones, from Prussia, set a standard for quality that they have had difficulty living up to for the last 100 years. And it has only been in the last 25 years that the origins of these early guns has been documented. SD & G is long gone along with their records. Lindner left no survivors to carry on his firm. History swallowed them up until some determined researchers started to notice these extremely high quality guns that no one knew anything about.

Daly first began working with H.A Lindner's father, sourcing hammer guns with the Charles Daly name in the 1870's. By sometime in the 1880s, Heinrich had taken over the firm after a suitable apprenticeship and really started to leave his mark. He saw the value in focusing his efforts on satisfying Daly and the American market and built his firm around doing expressly that. Much to the disapproval of a lot of the other gunmakers of the time. He was and still is somewhat ignored in Germany because he mostly didn't make "German" guns with his own name on them. He also, clearly, was a stickler for quality work, even among Germans...who are not typically known for being sloppy. His guns are identified by a crown over pistols touch mark (like a proof) changing with the advent of the 1893 proof laws to the initials HAL over pistols.

In SD&G catalogs from the era...1890 to 1912....there are a myriad of model numbers, changing regularly as the retailer saw fit. However the guns of the highest qulaity levels were inscribed as "Diamond Quality". And a small number of others got to be called "Featherweight". These designations are in addition to the numerical model names.

Daly worked with just a few engravers over that period. He had a relatively small shop with just a few employees. He lived above the shop, as was common at the time. He sourced his raw action forgings from J.P. Sauer & Sohn. He no doubt outsourced some of the work to others workers who met his standard. But the current understanding is Lindner did the final finishing and inspection of every gun that left his shop.

Lindner had a son who left for the front in 1914 and did not return. No guns were made after that. He closed his shop officially at the end of the war. He helped SD&G out to some degree as a contact/agent after the war for some small number of years and died in 1933 (I think, not looking it up right now).
 
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Hahahaha! You know better than most what it's like, Brian. You find something others have passed over and you think you see something they aren't seeing. Sure is fun trying to prove yourself right. Just glad I'm not in it for the quick (or slow) buck. ;)
 
There's a meme everyone has seen with a little boy fist pumping. That would have been me if a gun ever came out of U/S cleaning showing those colours! Happy for you, James.
 
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MuskokaJoe, I'm glad you're enjoying the posts, and thanks for the kind suggestion. The posts should give a little idea of what will be in my upcoming book on the British pinfire game gun, which will have a complete history of how the pinfire originated and came to Britain and how it started a veritable revolution in sporting gun making, as well as detailed accounts of the guns themselves. I've put more than 25 years of research and collecting into this, and I'm hoping to be finished in the next year or two. Mind, with this coronavirus business, I'm spending a lot more time on it, and I have a strong motivation to get it done before I get infected! While I know interest in pinfires is not exactly high, to say the least, it is nonetheless an opportunity to appreciate Victorian double-gun making and to appreciate the historical origins of our hunting guns today.

I am nearing the run of these daily posts, just a few more to go, then I'll be back to focusing on the book.

I look forward to the book!!! Thank you for all the effort here. Amazing work.
 
A very interesting hardware-store gun

I once inspected tuna-canning factories in Thailand (a long story in itself). The fish were pressure-cooked in huge batches, cleaned, and the meat added to the cans for filling and sealing. I watched while the cans of tuna streamed through machines fitting them with paper labels. For a few minutes the machines affixed labels from a premium big-name company, then switching to generic no-name brand labels for a few more minutes, then on to another brand’s labels, filling pre-determined orders. Each can of tuna would end up being sold at vastly different price points. Each with exactly the same contents.

When one thinks of an ironmongers or hardware-store gun, it is easy to picture one of those rattle-jointed machine-churned "W. Richards" Belgian doubles that can be found on most gun-show tables. But in the mid-Victorian period, a Birmingham gun-making workshop could in one moment be building a gun destined for a respected London firm, and in the next be building a similar gun that would carry a hardware-store name. All guns were built to a pre-determined level of quality, and then it was a matter of engraving whatever name and address the contract specified. This meant that finished guns with a general merchant’s name might be just as good as those with, say, a town or city gun maker’s name. The difference would be that a gun maker would have a reputation to uphold and would be available to fix and maintain their guns, while a merchant was just in the business of selling. How does a hardware or general-goods merchant get into the gun-selling business? Family connections seems to be one way, and we’re sometimes talking about family businesses that can have long and intertwined histories.

Clement Cotterill was a merchant at No. 1, Old Square, Birmingham. He started in business as a leather seller in Edgbaston St., and was established as a hardware merchant and manufacturer by 1780. He founded the firm of Cotterill & Francis, for which the partnership was dissolved in 1790. In 1795 he entering into partnership with Thomas Ketland of Philadelphia, USA, ‘for the collection of hardwares, buttons, buckles, and all other articles manufactured in this and the neighbouring towns, and exported to the United States of North America and elsewhere’. His sons William and Thomas successively joined the partnership, first trading as Ketland, Cotterill, & Son (until 1802), then as Clement Cotterill & Sons (until 1806), and in 1825, following his daughter Mary’s marriage to Joshua Scholefield (the Member of Parliament for Birmingham), the firm traded as Scholefield & Sons.

At an unknown date John Dent Goodman became a partner in the business, and in 1861-1862 there was a Scholefield Sons & Goodman operating from Liverpool. In Birmingham the business of Scholefield, Goodman and Son, merchants, operated from 5 Minories, and in 1877-1878 the business moved to 135 Edmund street. At some point the business expanded to 31, Great St. Helens, London. The original Scholefield business may have traded in guns as part of their hardware business, but the involvement of J D Goodman was to link the company to the gun trade. Goodman was the Chairman of the Birmingham Small-Arms Trade Association (formed in 1854 by Goodman, John Field Swinburn, Isaac Hollis, Thomas Turner, Joseph Bourne, Thomas Wilson, John Rock Cooper, William Tranter, Charles Playfair, Benjamin and Henry Woodward, and others).

In 1861 the members of the association decided to establish the Birmingham Small Arms and Metal Company Ltd. (B.S.A.), in order to produce arms by machinery and thereby compete with the operations at Enfield. Goodman was elected Chairman of the Board of BSA in 1863, a position he held until 1900. Goodman was personally involved in all the trade contracts with the US government over provisions of arms in the period of the Civil War, and Scholefield, Goodman and Son was one of the companies involved in the shipping of Enfield-pattern guns to the US. It was also Goodman that secured for BSA the contract to convert 100,000 Pattern 1853 Enfields using the Snider action – think of that the next time you pick one up. Goodman was also in partnership with Joseph Rock Cooper & Co. of pepperbox pistol fame (CLARIFICATION: Cooper & Goodman, Gun and Pistol Maker, Birmingham 1857-1886/87).

In 1856 Goodman became chairman of the Birmingham Proof House, then in 1867 Abingdon Works was formed, a manufacturing partnership located in Shadwell Street to supply the trade with ready-made guns and gun parts. The partners were Goodman, Thomas Bentley, William Bourne, Charles Cooper, Charles Pryse, Richard Redman, Joseph Smith, Charles Playfair, Joseph Wilson, John Field Swinburn and Fred and Henry Woodward. But, despite Goodman’s widespread involvement in the gun trade and being a partner in several companies that made and/or sold guns, his name never appeared on any of them (CORRECTION: Goodman's name appeared on guns by Cooper & Goodman).

Today’s gun is a 12-bore double-bite screw grip rotary under-lever pinfire sporting gun of typical form, retailed by Scholefield, Goodman & Sons of Birmingham. It has no serial number, and I estimate it was made around 1867. The 29 13/16” damascus barrels have Birmingham proofs, and the top rib is signed “Scholefield London” (the ‘London’ reference might be false advertising, but at some point the company did have a London address). There is a gun/barrel maker’s mark “J.W” on the barrels and between the barrel lugs, and I believe this gun was built by Joseph Wilson of 67 1/2 Great Charles Street, Birmingham, one of the Abington Works partner gun makers. The gun has an elongated top strap, thin percussion fences, back-action locks signed “Scholefield”, and about 30% coverage of foliate scroll engraving. This was a medium-quality gun that was produced by the Birmingham gun trade, but it was nevertheless built by craftsmen. What is unusual about this piece is its condition – there is still blueing visible on the trigger guard bow, case-colour on the fore-end iron, crisp engraving and chequering, and original browned barrels. Though this gun did not see much use, the bores were neglected and are now pitted. The gun weighs 7 lb 2 oz.

I believe this gun was made by Joseph Wilson, either supplying sporting guns to Scholefield, Goodman & Sons directly, or through the Abington Works. Again through a direct interest by John Dent Goodman, Scholefield, Goodman & Sons supplied Scholefield-marked rifles to the Newfoundland sealing trade (many of which are single-shot Field’s Patent side-lever in .450 caliber). Apparently Goodman visited Newfoundland several times, perhaps seeking out new business opportunities. A few Scholefield-marked shotguns are known, but to my knowledge this is the only pinfire game gun so marked. The Newfoundland trade connection might help explain how a Scholefield-marked gun ended up in Canada, but it certainly doesn’t explain how it remained in such good condition.

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Wonderful restoration pictures, Canvasback, the workmanship of the gun really stands out. A great story of ferreting out a real 'sleeper', of the type that only comes along a few times a lifetime, if we're lucky! I wonder what my pinfires might look like after such a deep clean?

And to think these guns start out as a forging like this one, and end up looking like your Charles Daly.

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Steve, great anecdote about the tuna factory. I've had the chance to see similar things in my business career. Really drives home the "value" of marketing and brand name.

Cool forging. I used to have a bunch from my days in the golf industry.
 
Calling the Scholefield a hardware store gun does it an injustice.
The contrast to American hardware store guns is stark.
Real craftsmanship went into making the Scholefield.
 
John Forrest and Son Single Shot Rook and Rabbit Rifle

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Yes, I know this is a rifle and not a side-by-side or a over under, but bear with me, this is a pretty nice rifle.
It is a single shot, under lever in 105 bore (probably a 360 cal) with black powder proof and is probably classified as a rook rifle. It has a 26" octagonal barrel, with one standing and one folding site. Suspect it was built about 1880 and remains in superb condition and appears completely original.
It was made by John Forrest and Son of Kelso, Scotland. The firm was in business for many years until the 1980s when they were taken over by Dickson.
 

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Calling the Scholefield a hardware store gun does it an injustice.
The contrast to American hardware store guns is stark.
Real craftsmanship went into making the Scholefield.

Yes and, while the lessons of labelling, branding and pricing are valid and important, there are a couple of equally important lessons.

Not the least of which, is to inspect and evaluate the specimen in your hands, irrespective of the maker. Almost without exception, gunmakers throughout history have been able to produce guns ranging from serviceable to best. Most of them have built guns spanning that entire range. Two guns can be built under the same pattern, with the same materials, and have vastly different outcomes. The primary differences between results at opposite ends of the scale are the skill, time, and effort used in the fitting and finishing of the parts and the gun.

All of the significant gun-producing regions have been credited with some exquisite work, as well as lots of junk. Fortunately, quality stands the test of time. And crap, well...
 
There's a meme everyone has seen with a little boy fist pumping. That would have been me if a gun ever came out of U/S cleaning showing those colours! .
I’ve sent a few through an ultrasonic and the change can be pretty substantial...but WOW! That looks awesome. What a great looking gun.
 
Yes, I know this is a rifle and not a side-by-side or a over under, but bear with me, this is a pretty nice rifle.
It is a single shot, under lever in 105 bore (probably a 360 cal) with black powder proof and is probably classified as a rook rifle. It has a 26" octagonal barrel, with one standing and one folding site. Suspect it was built about 1880 and remains in superb condition and appears completely original.
It was made by John Forrest and Son of Kelso, Scotland. The firm was in business for many years until the 1980s when they were taken over by Dickson.

That is one of the most attractive rook and rabbit rifles I've ever seen, if not the most. Gorgeous!
 
Bill, while it’s none of the things this thread is supposed to be about, it definitely belongs. Beautiful rifle and thanks for showing it to us.
 
Continuing the Lindner Charles Daly restoration story, now it's time to look at the forend. It came to me missing the horn tip, as well as having the usual dings and chips that come from 110 years of use and misuse. In particular, sections of the thin "bead" that runs along the edges had been chipped away over time.





 
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