Lets see your pre 64 model 70's

I have always loved these rifles in original condition. I finally got my hands on the one I wanted and have a few more in the works over the next while. I bought this one from a well known and respected CGN member, just took some convincing that he wanted to part with it.

Here is my all original 1958 Winchester 70 in 300H&H:

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My compliaments! Anyone would be hard pressed to surpass that nice clean look.

I had a post 64, fancy grade in 300WM that I gave to a buddy when I picked uo a 308NM Schultz & Larsen. It had nicely figured wood in the butt area and two different sizes of checkering with some oak leaf border.

My only model 70 at present, again a post 64, is a Super Express in 458WM.

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Hey Davey, that 270 is a beauty, I'm on the lookout for a featherweight myself. On the topic of see thru mounts and the like, when I got my 300 H&H it had Weaver tip-offs and a Tasco scope. I couldn't let it be seen like that so I had to get it set up with different rings and scope before I could shoot it.
Davey, you asked about handloads, I'm using a 180 gr Partition and IMR 4350 with Winchester, Nosler or Remington brass and WLRM primers. I get 3050 fps which is the same as the Federal loads do with the 180 Partition. I'll PM you with the specifics.
 
Thanks guys!

Matt, thanks for the load info! I just want to try something different as I am not having much luck accuracy wise with 200g TSX's. This is the first time I have ever run into that. I was having not bad results from 180g Accubonds so I will go back to those and try out a few more loads.
 
Here's a .270 Featherweight a friend of mine ownes. Sweet little gun. My dad used one just like it for Grizzlies and Whitetail alike. I'm trying to make this one become a part of my collection as it is absolutly mint, but the price on these is just a little out of my league right now.
That's a nice 300 H&H you've got, however, that barrel looks like it might be just a little long for "pushin' bush". Don't ever sell it, you'd be mightly sorry down the road.

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Is that the right rear sight? I'm no pro with regard to M70s. I thought the sight would be the same as your 300 H&H.
 
Over the years I've managed to accumulate and upgrade to 10 pre 64 M70's and one Model 54, the Model 70's daddy. All ten. Model 70's, are in original condition. I'm still looking for more, it keeps life interesting never knowing when or where the next one will show up.

Here's a picture of my very first one, my all time favorite . . 1952 300 H&H

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I found a picture of another one I have. I think it's a picture of my 257 Rbts. 1953

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Regards:
Rod
 
Mine is all original, the plate too. 1958 was the transition year between steel and plastic. It will remain as it sits, no alterations at all. Maybe some correct period rings but that's it.

I had really hoped for one in this condition with the steel butt plate, but at the time that little feature would have cost me a pile more to get one from 57 in about the same condition and I would have had to pull it from the states.

I have some connections on a few others, but they might take some time...

Dave:

Your 300 H&H would be correct with a steel butt plate if your rifle was manufactured in 1958 . . between serial numbers 425,284 to 440,792. Also a solid red rubber, 1922 pat. dated, Winchester recoil pad is also correct for 1958, as they could be ordered with such. Reproduction pads are available at Galazan's and originals show up occassionly on ebay.

According to Roger Rule, The Rifleman'd Rifle (pg. 152), the "hard composite rubber" type buttplate began to supersede the steel buttplate during the 1959 production year. between serial numbers 440,703 to 465,040. By 1960, (pg. 231), photographs in the Winchester catalogue were showing the composition butt plates.

Winchester was noted for "Running Changes", meaning they would fase in the changes as the previous supplies were depleted. Sometimes changes took 2 to 3 years to complete as each production line would use up the old. I've seen an aluminium buttplate on an early 1960 featherweight and a steel buttplate on 1960 standard rifle. There were a lot of changes occurring during 1958 and 1960 with cartridge changes deleted and and new ones added, super grade deleted and new model names added. Winchester was setting up the lineage for the short action magnums off the 458 case and trying it's best to gradually lead the consumer away from high cost production of the past. I guess they may have been trying to save the pre 64 Model 70 with price increases for the consumer and lower production costs.

Regards:
Rod
 
Thanks for the info Rod! Not sure if you are saying that the butt plate on mine is not original but I am pretty sure it is. Maybe you are saying that I could add a steel one and it would still be correct. That was one option I was thinking of when I bought the rifle but have had a hard time getting an original. Lots of folks just do not want to ship to Canada. I did buy a reproduction quite a while back but IMO the quality is sub par.

BTW, sweet H&H :cool:



Here's a picture of my very first one, my all time favorite . . 1952 300 H&H

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I have one with a beaten, cracked stock, worn out bluing everywhere, many dents and scratches. A well used workhorse.

Shoots like a dream.

I'll keep her just the way she is.
 
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