lets see your thick bush guns!

Starting with you ??

Yup, I'm scared of bears.
My first husband and I lived in ketchikan and juneau alaska for several years.
I guess the 600+ pound young boar I shot at 60 yards with my mannlicher schoenaur 30-06 (another gun I sorely regret selling) while it was trying to dig into our grub cache in a hillside beside our cabin doesn't count.
 
No offense intended, but I always believed that the 30-40 Krag chambering would give a reloader tons more bullet options in that fine single shot rifle. (Can we say for instance, the very fine 170 grain Nosler Partition?)

ducking for cover now..........lol
 
No offense intended, but I always believed that the 30-40 Krag chambering would give a reloader tons more bullet options in that fine single shot rifle. (Can we say for instance, the very fine 170 grain Nosler Partition?)

ducking for cover now..........lol

I believe I was using factory ammo (possibly a remy core-lokt because my ex thought a lot of them) pushing a pedestrian 220 grain crimped cup' n core bullet dropped the bear I spoke of above.
The ot 6 doesn't have much power advantage on the 30-40 krag and an appropriate bullet with good placement would drop any grizzly.
 
I believe I was using factory ammo (possibly a remy core-lokt because my ex thought a lot of them) pushing a pedestrian 220 grain crimped cup' n core bullet dropped the bear I spoke of above.
The ot 6 doesn't have much power advantage on the 30-40 krag and an appropriate bullet with good placement would drop any grizzly.

I hate to perpetuate the bear defence thing in this thread, because this thread was intended for nice easily handled guns in the bush (which as an ontarian I appreciate).....

There is a very big difference between shooting a bear you see breaking into something and fending off a charge.... Bears are easy to kill, yes.... But they don't die easy, especially full of adrenaline..... I have spent VERY limited time in grizz country and was never charged, but I did once have to give up a salmon while fishing....lol

The few grizz I have seen have either left me alone or ran the other way..... I do have plenty of blackie experience, and my biggest fear with them is what happens post trigger pull..... They get loopy.... They know something bad is up and they look to fix the situation with no understanding..... The sound of a death bawl is something that can haunt dreams..... That is the sound of an animal not being able to figure things out and accepting their fate.....

There is no doubt your calibers will kill a bear in a hunting situation, but bear have a standing heart rate that is very low, and they don't bleed out fast...... Lots can happen from a to b ......
 
Sorry Conor.... Was referring more to this..... And her subsequent post.... Damn elephant style memory.... Lol



You gotta get a guns butt plate against your own shoulder before you can properly assess it.
Lots of parroted anecdotal stuff floating around gun forums that is pure bs.
A stainless rossi 92/454 casull that is properly tuned and maintained combined with the appropriate ammo in the hands of a shooter who has bothered to learn to shoot it correctly is the best bear defence gun bar none that I've ever seen.
Tough, light, dependable, durable, fast pointing and lethal within 100 yards.
 
and my reading of torontogungals post tells me that she is totally on the ball with the capabilities of a 20" barreled 454 Casull that holds 10 rounds in the tube = that can only come from experience.
 
I hate to perpetuate the bear defence thing in this thread, because this thread was intended for nice easily handled guns in the bush (which as an ontarian I appreciate).....

There is a very big difference between shooting a bear you see breaking into something and fending off a charge.... Bears are easy to kill, yes.... But they don't die easy, especially full of adrenaline..... I have spent VERY limited time in grizz country and was never charged, but I did once have to give up a salmon while fishing....lol

The few grizz I have seen have either left me alone or ran the other way..... I do have plenty of blackie experience, and my biggest fear with them is what happens post trigger pull..... They get loopy.... They know something bad is up and they look to fix the situation with no understanding..... The sound of a death bawl is something that can haunt dreams..... That is the sound of an animal not being able to figure things out and accepting their fate.....

There is no doubt your calibers will kill a bear in a hunting situation, but bear have a standing heart rate that is very low, and they don't bleed out fast...... Lots can happen from a to b ......

If I was going back to alaska I'd take my brothers 1895g with the wwg trigger happy and ejector, beartooth safety delete, 1-4x20mm heavy post leupy on a see-under mount over a x/s aperture sighting system (you can sight the gun with the x/s sight without removing the scope). My brother made the mount. He's a machinist and has worked stateside as a gunsmith. I think he went to that sonoro gunsmith school.
His hand load pushes a 430 grain hard cast bullet to 1975 fps.
This is the best bear defence gun.
Bear hunting is different than bear defence and I was never interested in hunting them.
When my family lived in alaska I left the bears alone if they left me alone.
 
Yup, I'm scared of bears.
My first husband and I lived in ketchikan and juneau alaska for several years.
I guess the 600+ pound young boar I shot at 60 yards with my mannlicher schoenaur 30-06 (another gun I sorely regret selling) while it was trying to dig into our grub cache in a hillside beside our cabin doesn't count.

Based on this post, you seem more than willing to shoot a bear that is not an imminent threat to your person...... You are in their territory, they arent in yours......
 
As was mentioned earlier on the thread, here on the Island we only have black bears, wolves, and Cougars to deal with. The wolves and bears don't bother me, and I've spent a lot of time in their habitat without a gun. The Cougars bother me more as I know I've been tracked by them, especially when I was a kid. My usual bush gun is my '94 in .32 win special, but I'd really like a pistol on my hip for cougars. There's no way I could swing a long gun around to get the cat. Since pistols are illegal to pack (other than antiques), I'll have to trust in my belt knife.
 
Based on this post, you seem more than willing to shoot a bear that is not an imminent threat to your person...... You are in their territory, they arent in yours......

I don't mean to be offensive but that david suzuki liberal stuff rolls off me like water off a duck.
In the area of alaska we lived in if the bear was after my food source he's threatening my life and down he goes.
Once they sniff a food source out they'll be back and back and back.
Put him down the first time and he won't be back.
I still have his fur mounted on my bedroom wall.
 
^ Honestly if you're homesteading up in alaska (which a grub cache in a hillside certainly strikes me as being the case) then yes you shoot the critter trying to take your stuff. For that matter shoot anything trying to take your stuff. I'm sick of hearing that that is unreasonable.

Back to the thread, my thick bush gun is an iron sighted husky 1640 in '06. Carried it for deer and everything else in Ontario and now I carry it when i'm traipsing about the rocky mountains.
 
and my reading of torontogungals post tells me that she is totally on the ball with the capabilities of a 20" barreled 454 Casull that holds 10 rounds in the tube = that can only come from experience.

And my reading of your posts and accompanying video told me you have a bear defence obsession and are more than willing to off a bear for absolutely no reason at all...... Your comment after you shot a 4 inch group at 50 yards with your lever action after a pause, breathe, I need to do the best I can because this on video of "I won't carry spray" says it all...... And your claim of killing several bears with your revolver is ridiculous..... And my comment on avoidance stands.....

If your claims are true, you are the biggest defence related bear slayer in Canada and my hat is off to you..... But since you took the time to shoot a video of yourself on YouTube, at a non moving target at 50 yards that already had a hole in it and declared that your group under no stress meant that spray was inadequate, I will leave it up to all to judge.....

Surely since you have video handy, you have pics of all of the Bears you took with your revolver?.... And surely, since you like to post here, you have stories of the charges of all of the bear charges you dispatched with your revolver, and of course your rifles no?
 
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