Lets Talk About The 22LR Situation....again :)

Hey guys..... I was in Moncton today and picked up 22LR. Green-Diamond has lots of 22 and other ammo in stock. The guy there said he thought Halifax had a good supply too. I walked out with 800 rounds of Cbees and two buckets of Remington and didn't even put a dent in their inventory. I coulda bought waaaaaaay more but I felt greedy enough with what I purchased. Give Green-Diamond a call in Halifax for any NS'ers in need and see how that goes. Oh... the prices for both firearms and ammo were pretty much on par or below as compared to Cabela's for a lot of the products I looked at, and the guys are awesome @ the Moncton store. They knew their stuff and were happy to chat about guns and Shotshow and such. :)
 
you guys got me sweating so i just called my co-op. A brick(525) of winchester is $22 Brick of federal $32 ran out to the shop to find i still got 10 bricks price tag was 14.99 cant remember when i bought them its been a while at least three years. We had disease run through the gopher population about that long ago and hasn't been a lot to shoot at. I hate to say it but I kinda miss the little f'rs.
 
Thanks for this explanation!

LUTNIT said:
You generally wont see them in normal stores unless they cater to competition/match shooters. In Ottawa, of the 5-6 gun stores that sell 22lr ammo only one carries any of it. The rest are just bulk US stuff.
Premium match ammo pretty much starts at $60/brick at the cheapest stores and can easily get past $200/brick for some of the really good stuff. $70-80/brick is pretty much middle of the road for match 22lr ammo.
The ammo most used in international competition and the Olympics is Eley Tenex I believe which is around $250/500rnds.

They are all generally standard velocity/subsonic loads and aren't meant for hunting so don't really increase the range at which you can hit anything. They make an incredibly difference in the right rifle in terms of accuracy. I've shot .22" groups (centre to centre, so the hole was .44" overall) with RWS (German) ammo in a rifle with a good match barrel at 50yds with ideal conditions. I shoot 10-round .50" groups (.72" ragged hole edge to edge) on a regular basis with various brands of match ammo (which isn't that impressive).

I've seen many people try premium match ammo in regular run-of-the-mill rifles with mediocre barrels and they don't see any improvement in their groups. It's a combination of the rifle not liking the ammo, the rifle not being accurate enough to take advantage of it, and the shooter not having the skill to deliver. It's especially odd when you see people with tacticool semi 22's trying out match ammo and they don't cycle. The usual conclusion is "the ammo is crap".
Just like how racing fuel wont give any performance improvements to a Toyota Corolla, match ammo can only do so much in a non-match rifle.
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Just came from my LGS, I wasn't there for Ammo but just out of curiosity I inquired about the price of 22lr:

American Eagle 22lr 500's - $34.99
Federal Bulk Pack 525 HP's - $39.99

I have a personal Limit, I won't pay more then $35.00 a brick for 22LR.

When I think about it, I can't help but laugh at myself. For other Calibre's I'm usually happy to pay approx:

- $1.50 a round for .308
- $1.00 a round for 12 gauge (00 Buck or Slug)
- 0.15 a round for 7.62x39

Yet for some reason, I refuse to pay more then .07 a round for 22LR. :s

I remember being annoyed in 2012 when my LGS was charging me $26.99 for a box of Federal 525 HP's while my friends in the city were only paying $22.99. Now the same ammo is $40.00 a box. I wish I had bought more when I had the chance.

The joys of being spoiled with cheap prices.
 
No shortage in alberta went to p and d in Edmonton also wolverine in red deer and they had so many kinds of .22 bricks. Had at least 40 bricks or so of each kind. Don't think anyone could put a dent in any of it
 
Cabelas are known for being one of the first and most egregious stores for increasing prices. They aren't flat out gouging like some smaller stores but they are usually significantly more expensive than other major retailers.
I paid I think $64 each for 2 of those buckets last summer at LeBarons. The weaker dollar would mean those same buckets from last summer would be closer to $76 today. Still a hefty increase but not the 50% increase it first looks like.
 
Just visited the store at the range I shoot at (Stittsville Shooting Ranges)

Federal blue box 500rnd and American Eagle 500rnd for $27.99 (were $25 pre 2013 at the same store)
Federal 525 bulk box plated HP's (loose) for $29.99 (also $25 pre 2013)
CCI mini mags in 300rnd boxes for $31.99 (box I have from pre 2013 is $21)
CCI Standard Velocity 100rnd packs for $9.99 (were $25/500 pre 2013)
CCI velocitors, 50rnds at $8.99 (brick from the same store 2 years ago on my shelf says $64.99 for 500)
Win Wildcats at $23.99/500 but only saw one box (don't know what this store charged before but pre 2013 they were $17.xx at LeBarons)
Win 222 and 333 packs, didn't check price
Norma training and match biathlon ammo for $14.99 and $24.99 per 50 (same price as pre 2013)
CCI 22lr shotshells
Bunch of 22WMR and 17HMR

Stacks of most of them on multiple shelves and cases of them behind the counter.
10% off for all range members.
Overall slight to moderate price increases for most of it. CCI stuff went up the most but that seems like a common trend.
Was disappointed to see they have no RWS or Eley target ammo.

Also .311" bullets for reloading (also hard to find) in hunting and match varieties from 150gr to 180gr.
 
Saw bricks of CCI, Winchester, and Remington in Oshawa this past weekend. No shortage. CCI was $35/300 and the otehr stuff was in that $40/500 range.

I think we're past the point of a shortage and just into a new reality of pricing.
 
blasted_saber said:
Saw bricks of CCI, Winchester, and Remington in Oshawa this past weekend. No shortage. CCI was $35/300 and the otehr stuff was in that $40/500 range.

I think we're past the point of a shortage and just into a new reality of pricing.
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When Canadian tire, Bass Pro or Cabelas have at least something in stock on a reasonable schedule I would agree, the shortage is far from over.

Orangeville gun show had people selling win 333 bricks for 60 and 80 bucks...
 
Grinthock said:
When Canadian tire, Bass Pro or Cabelas have at least something in stock on a reasonable schedule I would agree, the shortage is far from over.

Orangeville gun show had people selling win 333 bricks for 60 and 80 bucks...
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Well people who'd buy it are stupid. I live in Muskoka. Ive stopped at half a dozen CTs between here and Oshawa in the past ten days and ALL of them had bricks in the $40/500 range. Ive been to Tremblays in Orillia, Gagnons in Oshawa, and Williams in Port Perry in the past week. They also had bricks in that price range. The only place I checked that didnt have any was SAIL. I was at Epps about two weeks ago and they had bricks advertised. Seems the big box gun stores sell out while the smaller places keep stock better.
 
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