Call me Nobody...
They are hard to beat for versatile!
Still looking for 12/9.3 barrel set!
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R.
Let's talk double rifles, from a beginners perspective.
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Call me Nobody...
They are hard to beat for versatile!
Still looking for 12/9.3 barrel set!
: )
R.
you re not the only one looking for that kind of set.
I don't know why lining the barrels this way couldn't be made to work for lower pressure cartridges. Perhaps one liner could be installed hard - it would be the master barrel, so to speak, and the second liner would be tweaked to adjust the point of impact, so that the groups from both barrels would center on the same point of aim at a chosen range.
Lower priced double rifles have been made with two sets of sights, to avoid regulating.
There is the book by W. Ellis Brown on building a double rifle starting with a shotgun. Not a project for the faint of heart. A chap from Oshawa made some, .22Hornet and up. Outstanding work!
A strong shotgun action must be used. Triple locking system. The ribs are lifted and the barrels are cut off, with the breech section of the barrels being made into a monoblock into which the rifle barrels are installed.
I bought a Baikal 4570 for bear hunting and love it. It's not nice but it's functional and I shoot a Baikal 12ga sxs alot and they handle quite the same. The Baikal offers regulation adjustment horizontal not vertical. Mine was really well regulated from the factory but I chose to load hotter than green and yellow box Remington loads so it makes a figure 8 pattern at 20 yards about an 1" difference vertically at 30 yards. The right barrel is dead on at 100yards and the left is pretty well on 130 or 140 I can't remember but I only use it when I'm expecting shots under 40 yards anyway. I do enjoy carrying the gun and it scratches the itch for a double just enough to make you want a much nicer one
Good thing about the Baikal is it can be used as a club or paddle if need be
When I get a nice double when my house is paid off it will be in 9.3x74r or 450/400 3". Good for our big game and still usable in Africa
If you're ok with over unders several Italian company's make them and they start around 5 or 6 grand. I much prefer the feel and the less opening angle of a sxs though
Good thing about the Baikal is it can be used as a club or paddle if need be
When I get a nice double when my house is paid off it will be in 9.3x74r or 450/400 3". Good for our big game and still usable in Africa
If you're ok with over unders several Italian company's make them and they start around 5 or 6 grand. I much prefer the feel and the less opening angle of a sxs though
Licensed to kill
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- Peace Country Alberta
You don't miss it, you just miss WITH it.
Licensed to kill
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- Peace Country Alberta
Kinda like shooting a SXS shotgun with mod and full chokes, right barrel when relatively close, left barrel if a follow-up shot is required at a longer distance.
fingers284
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The only fly in the ointment on that notion is that most double rifle usage is on something that is mmuuuchh closer on a follow-up shot.
Where I hunt with my double a chance for a long shot is rare unless the bear is walking down a logging road. Any clear cut patch is sprayed by helicopter with I'm guessing a broadleaf plant killer because all that grows after is evergreens so they don't offer many hunting ops for big game. A sxs 12ga with slugs would likely work just as good for my uses but the rifle does allow me to accurately shoot to 100 yards if I ever needed to. Plus I run a small optic on it. Helps with my not so great vision
Even though I have the cheapest double rifle on the market there is something satisfying using it. Maybe it's just the sound of the brass casings over plastic of a shotgun maybe something else but there is something
contaucreek
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My Ruger #1 in .450 Nitro sent me down the wormhole of classic British safari ctg's and the beautiful doubles that fired them.
Rigby is making the Rising Bite doubles again. £130,000 starting price and 3 year lead time. Probably have to fly over to spec out the stock etc...
Great topic!
https://www.johnrigbyandco.com/guns/the-rising-bite/
Rigby is making the Rising Bite doubles again. £130,000 starting price and 3 year lead time. Probably have to fly over to spec out the stock etc...
Great topic!
https://www.johnrigbyandco.com/guns/the-rising-bite/
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I've actually considered a falling block rifle like the Ruger No.1 to satiate my old world safari vibes until I can one day afford a double rifle. Are they still offering the No.1 in dangerous game cartridges?
That Rigby is beautiful but I don't see myself ever shopping in that stratosphere.
I'm moreso considering what's the nicest double I can find in the $10,000 range.
I have the Valmet 412 in 9.3x74r double! It’s awesome…. Ejectors, adjustable barrels, super accurate. Single selective mechanical trigger so if the first doesn’t go bang you have the second. Actually functional as a dangerous game gun. It the one set up in the pic along with some other barrel options….
Btw , the 30-06 double set is up for sale
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contaucreek
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Check Prophet River for big bore doubles.
Edit, just checked and they have some Rizinni stuff. Didn't dig deeper. Epps has the odd one pop up under the "Dangerous Game" catagory.
Have a peek at Nitroexpress.com and AfricaHunting.com
Edit, just checked and they have some Rizinni stuff. Didn't dig deeper. Epps has the odd one pop up under the "Dangerous Game" catagory.
Have a peek at Nitroexpress.com and AfricaHunting.com
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I have no experience with them but FAIR makes both sxs and our for reasonable money. I looked into them when looking for a small bore double which they offer. They also offer a set of shotgun barrels as well. A 2 barrel set in 9.3x74r and 20ga can cover a large range of hunting in one package and you'll still be under 10 grand. Again I haven't actually fired a FAIR double rifle
BigUglyMan
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That's the #1 I wish my #1 in 458 Winchester was. Not sure why, but it just seems righter.
BigUglyMan
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I have a Merkel 140AE in 470NE. I've never had an issue with it doubling but I also haven't had anyone poke around in the guts of it and fool with the internals. Seeing people on NirtroExpress talk about 3.5# triggers in a fighting rifle used when you're hot, sweaty, and with adrenaline flowing sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I suspect that the majority of the doubling problem people experience are caused by fingers slipping onto the second trigger or guys squeezing the rifle so hard that they get the chubby part of their finger up against the second trigger unaware until they torch off the first barrel. The majority of the rest are caused by guys jacking with the rifle, because they're obviously smarter than a team of German engineers. A tiny fraction are caused by Murphy.
Merkels, like Blasers and Krieghoffs, are made by people who know more than anyone about building quality firearms and building them to handle use. Everyone lusts after a Holland Royal, but for us mere mortals you cannot beat a German double rifle.
Merkels, like Blasers and Krieghoffs, are made by people who know more than anyone about building quality firearms and building them to handle use. Everyone lusts after a Holland Royal, but for us mere mortals you cannot beat a German double rifle.
I'll look into these German makes further. German production sounds more appealing than French/Italian/Russian to me personally.
